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4 minutes ago, bandito said:

 

There is a new law that an ambulance, sirene on, has the right of way.

Traffic has to yield same as for a police car, stop and give them room to pass.

I think that most people are unaware of this new law.

Hmmm and those  flashing light "Police escorts" you see driving down the outside lane  with 4  coaches in tow, a  useless and unnecessary use of lights etc 

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43 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

 

I was thinking the same thing.  Whether the ambulance is on the way to or on the way back to the hospital with a patient.... they should have the right of way and .... respect.   Anyone purposely impeding the ambulance should be at a minimum severely fined, with potential to rise to the level of manslaughter or criminal negligence.  

...and a life time, country wide ban on ever being transported to hospital in one!

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Just now, kannot said:

Hmmm and those  flashing light "Police escorts" you see driving down the outside lane  with 4  coaches in tow, a  useless and unnecessary use of lights etc 

 

Right you are, but I am talking about ambulances right of way.

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2 hours ago, LivinLOS said:

 

And yesterday its reported 20% of people picked up by ambulances die in the back in  part due to people not yielding in traffic and not getting them to hospital fast enough

its the same old problem. No training and the simple fact here is people cannot drive. They drive here with total inconsideration as if each one of them personally owns the road and how dare you get in their way.

 

The basic driving common sense prevalent in countries that do have proper control over the issue of licenses, training, law enforcement and punishment is almost completely absent.

 

With the recent news that the government is now going to make it even easier to get a driving license this is not going to improve. Thailand should be ashamed.

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

The impatient driver seems to have been irked that he was overtaken by the ambulance earlier.

 

Am I the only one who doesn't see it this way?

 

At the start of the clip, it shows the black pick-up approaching the fork in the road with the ambulance behind him.   He has then turned left into the smaller artery and stopped.   MAYBE the driver thought the ambulance was going straight along the main thoroughfare, and he was actually trying to give it free passage.

 

Then, when the ambulance has followed him left into the smaller road, the pick up can be seen immediately driving forward and stopping clear of the intersection, again MAYBE at a point where the ambulance could overtake safely.

 

When the ambulance stopped to do a U-turn, the pick up stopped in front of the ambulance, with his window open and talked to the ambulance officer.   I didn't see any body language that I usually associate with an angry driver. MAYBE he thought the ambulance was lost or in some other way, needed assistance.

 

As a front-line cop for 25 years, I know very well that some motorists do the most ridiculous things when there is an emergency vehicle with lights and sirens blaring behind them.   Most of the time it is due to panic, and not rudeness or indifference.

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One thing that bothers me is when the police clear the street for some bigwig in a limousine heading to the airport or somewhere else with a police escort, preventing everyone else from using the road. It happens all too often in Bangkok, and yet ambulances with people who need urgent medical treatment get stuck in traffic! I love Thailand but this is one feature of the country that makes me shake my head in disgust.

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1 hour ago, robertthesculptor said:

As an old EMT, I would like to point out to some of the responders here, you are jerks

Ambulance should ALWAYS have right of way, in fact you should pull over even if it is coming from the opposite direction....

Remember, likely one day it Will be your sorry patute on the gurney....

Anyone who obstructs an ambulance should be jailed and car impounded for a good long stretch

 

 

Try that in America and you will go to jail, lose your license, pay a large fine and be charged up to manslaughter !!!!

 

Piss on the censors here but that is why i hate Thailand so much !!!!!!!!!!!

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24 minutes ago, bandito said:

 

Right you are, but I am talking about ambulances right of way.

yes  but  "crying  wolf" I mean there is  too much unnecessary use of  flashing lights here and no need for Police to be adding to that with their stupid "escort" service

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35 minutes ago, kannot said:

The  real problem here is there are "way too many"  vehicles with flashing lights and  sirens on...

 

That's an issue but the real problem is complete lack of respect for others (un-Buddhist) and bog-awful driving. Try that on in the UK (where there are also really really bad drivers I may add, sometimes worse than here for tailgating etc) or another ordered country and the pickup driver would be brought in and made to look a complete tit all over the news whether he were a billionaire somebody or a poor nobody.

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3 hours ago, cooked said:

I have the impression, in Bangkok at least, that ambulances automatically turn on sirens and lights when going anywhere. No wonder they are disrespected.

Do you have any facts to support your impression, or is it based purely on envy?

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3 hours ago, cooked said:

I have the impression, in Bangkok at least, that ambulances automatically turn on sirens and lights when going anywhere. No wonder they are disrespected.

And quite a few other vehicles get sirens and own the road....

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1 hour ago, bandito said:

 

There is a new law that an ambulance, sirene on, has the right of way.

Traffic has to yield same as for a police car, stop and give them room to pass.

I think that most people are unaware of this new law.

 

Thailand has a lot of good and well meant laws

But the police does not enforce them.

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It all gets down to RESPECT. On Thai roads this is non existent. From motorbikes to tourist buses , local buses trucks etc. driving / riding in Thailand is a life or death experience every time . Emergency lanes on freeways are just another lane for traffic, pickups stopping on street to load unload causing massive traffic jam behind. Buses think they are on a race track not a public road. Speeding signs used as a minimum speed not maximum. Under age non licensed students children riding motorbikes at speed with three or more on board. Law enforcement non existent. Second highest road death toll in the world. No wonder.

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Anyone found to be deliberately blocking an emergency vehicle should have their own vehicle impounded and not returned as they clearly have no respect for others on the road - and who knows what that can lead to. Well, we know don't we. Carnage due to the Me First attitude that is so deeply ingrained into Thai culture. If, as it appears in this case. the driver has a mental age of five they shouldn't be driving anyway.

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1 hour ago, Radar501 said:

 

Am I the only one who doesn't see it this way?

 

At the start of the clip, it shows the black pick-up approaching the fork in the road with the ambulance behind him.   He has then turned left into the smaller artery and stopped.   MAYBE the driver thought the ambulance was going straight along the main thoroughfare, and he was actually trying to give it free passage.

 

Then, when the ambulance has followed him left into the smaller road, the pick up can be seen immediately driving forward and stopping clear of the intersection, again MAYBE at a point where the ambulance could overtake safely.

 

When the ambulance stopped to do a U-turn, the pick up stopped in front of the ambulance, with his window open and talked to the ambulance officer.   I didn't see any body language that I usually associate with an angry driver. MAYBE he thought the ambulance was lost or in some other way, needed assistance.

 

As a front-line cop for 25 years, I know very well that some motorists do the most ridiculous things when there is an emergency vehicle with lights and sirens blaring behind them.   Most of the time it is due to panic, and not rudeness or indifference.

 

I think you missed the part of the story where the pick-up driver with a mental age of five was asking the ambulance driver if someone was dying. Offering directions didn't enter into it.

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Clear up the godforsaken police force. If these buggers would their job by taking Somchai off the road with this flashers and sirens and allow only ambulances - to be given top priority - while educating Khon Thai about opening a lane in traffic jams by moving those left - left and those right - right .........

Europe is not Nirvana but some things they got right and that is one of them. You don't move your vehicle IMMEDIATELY they'll slap "ignorant manslaughter" onto your back while your insurance company (mandatory, by the way) will be damages which occurred by letting an ambulance, fire brigade etc. pass unhindered 

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4 hours ago, cooked said:

I have the impression, in Bangkok at least, that ambulances automatically turn on sirens and lights when going anywhere. No wonder they are disrespected.

 

Been driving here for close to 30 years. I've notice ambulances that are in a real emergency they will be driving quickly with siren and lights, trying to squeeze through traffic. Those that are not in a hurry will just have lights on as a safety precaution if a patient is on board.  But of course sometimes there are those ahole drivers, but I find it few and uncommon nowadays compare to 10 years ago.

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3 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

 

I was thinking the same thing.  Whether the ambulance is on the way to or on the way back to the hospital with a patient.... they should have the right of way and .... respect.   Anyone purposely impeding the ambulance should be at a minimum severely fined, with potential to rise to the level of manslaughter or criminal negligence.  

It helps if while here we refrain from applying common sense when in this country as you will horribly chastised as being a horrible farang. I really toil with how to turn off my common sense meter. Constantly reminding myself NOT to apply it here. If you think like them it will all seem perfectly clear.

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If "it" (the pick up driver) had another brain, it would be lonely! :post-4641-1156693976:

 

Unfortunately this gives a clue to some bad instances of Thai culture - lack of respect of human life e.g. kids beaten, kids raped, kids killed etc etc........     :sad:

 

I am sure Buddhism has taught them different. But, who's learning?

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