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Australian woman dead after colliding with husband's jetski at Kata Beach

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2 minutes ago, Alan Deer said:

 

The use of jet skis is hugely under-supervised in Thailand...and emergency services are way too skant.

 

If Thailand wishes to sell itself as an international holiday play ground they need to buck up their ideas and hopefully accidents like this will be more avoidable.

 

Blaming those on the jet skis is a simplistic approach - anyone who works with safety in any form will know full well the pervasive nature of human error - both active and judgmental - this is not a factor that can be significantly changed - what can be changed is the circumstances that allow unfortunate errors in behavior and judgment.

 

 

 

 

 

You must work for the crazy Health and Safety brigade!

 

Of course the person who is riding the.....insert any vehicle.....is responsible for their actions. If they can't or will not accept that responsibility they should not hire the vehicle.

 

The only exception would be if the vehicle was faulty.

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2 hours ago, Thechook said:

On Australian news.  Absolute tragedy and she was so young and beautiful.  There should be a law that you must posses a licence to hire a jet ski,  motor bike etc.  I know you must have on in Australia but I guess that money comes before lives in Thailand.

I remember riding jet ski's in the Greek Islands years ago, no license was required, however you were told at the beginning that you had to be 200 metres apart from each other and if they saw you within the 200 metre parameters they would come and take you back and your time would be up there and then.

 

Perhaps similar rules should apply, if they are not already applied. As for being licensed to ride jet ski's in Thailand, don't hold your breath, just look at how many tourists are allowed to ride motorbikes with a motor vehicle drivers license, no motorcycle license which is just asking for trouble because we know if you don't have experience on motorbikes, you have a death wish. 

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2 hours ago, Thechook said:

On Australian news.  Absolute tragedy and she was so young and beautiful.  There should be a law that you must posses a licence to hire a jet ski,  motor bike etc.  I know you must have on in Australia but I guess that money comes before lives in Thailand.

There should be but lets be honest you can rent anything in Thailand license or not... car, scooter, 1100 cc superbike, elephant, water buffalo.

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10 minutes ago, chrissables said:

My comprehension of responsibility and safety are fully up to date.

 

Of course if i was making a living from selling the shit the Health and Safety  brigade impose on the general public, i could come up with many ideas, as people like you do.

 

If a person hires a vehicle, they are responsible for THEIR actions, nobody else. 

QED - you haven't even scratched the surface.

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Apart from the complete lack of safety regs - it seems that some posters believe that if the couple were ugly the accident would have been less serious......

 

rather than nape-of-the-neck statements maybe they should think a bit more around the topic and consider the circumstances that this allowed this incident to occur

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3 hours ago, Briggsy said:

The boyfriend will now be charged for the damage in line with previous Phuket jetski incidents.

And if it had been two rental cars involved in an accident, eg from Hertz or Avis ....unless hirer had taken out insurance....what's the difference? 

Would a rental car company pay on compassionate grounds? No chance.

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28 minutes ago, chrissables said:

A boat licence is required. But being able to pilot a boat and ride a jetski are two different things. The fact is there is no jetski licence, where you have to prove you ability to ride a jetski.

Yes, i agree and well know that there is a big differnce between a boat and a jetski, the point i was making is here from previous post of mine;

A boat captains licence is required, and if this was enforced very few people would be able to rent a jetski.

So, if the existing law was simply enforced, very very few people would be hiring jetskis in the first place.

We are both in full agreement though on the fact that common sense or rather the lack of is the main contributing factor in most deaths and or injuries re; jetskis/motorbikes.

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They were young, sad waste,no license ,rules,bits of bloody paper stop you being young,most of us are lucky to be here if we think back.We were aware of dangers but we pushed our luck


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2 hours ago, Thechook said:

On Australian news.  Absolute tragedy and she was so young and beautiful.  There should be a law that you must posses a licence to hire a jet ski,  motor bike etc.  I know you must have on in Australia but I guess that money comes before lives in Thailand.

 

Sadly, I think we already live in a world with more laws than you can shake a stick at.  I'd like to see less laws.  It's one thing I like about coming here to Thailand.  Common sense is the law that should prevail.  Laws in Australia are "over the top" IMHO.  This is a tragic story of misadventure and no laws governing the use of Jet Ski's would have stopped this.  However introducing laws will just put more red tap and hurdles to jump over to do something simple and have fun.  I've been riding motorbikes since I was 17 years old.  Thankfully I'm still alive today and I can tell you that having a license to ride a bike is not going to save anyone's life.  Nor are speed limits.  Common sense and good safe riding is what will keep you safe.  RIP young lady, died doing something you loved while with someone you loved.  

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Jetski's cause a lot of problems, just BAN them out of the whole country....they can use a waterbicycle...no noise and much better.Afbeeldingsresultaat voor waterfiets

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It's a sad story indeed and RIP to the young woman.  Having a licence to operate a jetski is an over regulation (even though yes, I have one plus a boat licence as well).  I have been riding jetski's both sit down and standup since I was 10.  I raced jetski's since the age of 18 and did so for many years.  If people rode properly, kept a safe distance and didn't play stupid games out on the water then it's virtually impossible to collide. We are taking about the open water, not a street or laneway where there are traffic is congested and travelling in both directions.  There is plenty of room to stay clear of other vessels.  

Stay safe out on the water people.  

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  • Copied directly form the Australian DFAT website right now:
  • "Be aware of the risks of hiring jet skis and motorcycles. Australian travellers continue to report harassment and threats of violence by jet ski operators on beaches across Thailand, and particularly in Phuket, Pattaya, Koh Samui and Koh Phangan. You may be detained and arrested by police following jet ski and motorcycle accidents until compensation, often in thousands of dollars, can be negotiated between parties. Check your insurance cover if you intend to ride a motorcycle in Thailand when you are not licensed to ride one in Australia."
  • Smart Traveller is one place where I never look, it's a big bad world out there and you would never leave your house if you followed DFAT advice. However, for those who want to look, it's all there on the website. After 35 years of riding and sometimes racing dirt bikes, I still always wear a helmet even in Thailand on my 150cc scooter. If you don't know how to operate something safely, don't. Simple.

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The fundamental problem is in fact the Western world's insistence on 'safety by regulation' and the 'drive to make the World 'safe'.

What that has done is to reduce people's 'risk awareness' sense.'

 

'Risk awareness' protects us when we move into an 'unknown' place. In simple terms it makes you think 'what might get me/what can go wrong'.

Reduce or even remove 'risk awareness'  immediately places people at risk in a new environment.

 

What 'over regulation' achieves is to make people think 'if I am allowed to do it, it must be safe. If it wasn't safe I wouldn't be allowed to do it.

 

The World is a dangerous place.

 

Final point, whilst at a Flying Club I went to the toilet and when I was washing my hands I looked at the mirror and there in bold letters were the words 'You are looking at the person responsible  for your safety'.

 

Point taken.

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