snoop1130 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Frenchman, Russians arrested in Phuket brawl Kritsada Mueanhawong Mr Pecherstorfer was charged with illegal possession of a firearm and carrying a firearm in public without permission. Photo: Kritsada Mueanhawong PHUKET:-- Two Russian tourists and a French expat were arrested after they were seen armed and fighting in Patong this afternoon. The incident happened near a bike rental shop run by the Frenchman, named by police as Gerard Pecherstorfer, 63, and his wife Suvan Paiwansao, on Sirirat Road. Ms Suvan told police that the argument was about a bike rental agreement between them and the tourists. Full Story: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Frenchman-Russians-arrested-Phuket-brawl/66239?desktopversion#ad-image-0 -- © Copyright Phuket Gazette 2017-2-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The Frenchman are in deep shit, shooting a gun twice in the air, not a very smart move. A good Thai friend of mine are doing similar rental businesses here in Pattaya and he don't use/have a gun. He will likely be booted out after serving time, unless he got cash, lots of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The Frenchman are in deep shit, shooting a gun twice in the air, not a very smart move. A good Thai friend of mine are doing similar rental businesses here in Pattaya and he don't use/have a gun. He will likely be booted out after serving time, unless he got cash, lots of cash.Didn't a couple of tattoo guys accidentally shoot a passerby? If I recall correctly nothing much happened to them in the end.sent using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 stop me if you have heard this one before... " Two Russian tourists and a French expat walk into a bar..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: stop me if you have heard this one before... " Two Russian tourists and a French expat walk into a bar..." "Ouch!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: "Ouch!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 hmmm... the passport of one of the Russians had expired... how was he allowed in? oversight by the immigration officer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, manarak said: hmmm... the passport of one of the Russians had expired... how was he allowed in? oversight by the immigration officer? No evidence that document was used to travel, in fact very unlikely. He used it as collateral to rent a bike and ran away when the renter discovered it was an old document. (I don't believe bike renters have the right to hold customers passports) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Old Croc said: No evidence that document was used to travel, in fact very unlikely. He used it as collateral to rent a bike and ran away when the renter discovered it was an old document. (I don't believe bike renters have the right to hold customers passports) correct, they aren't allowed to hold passports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Shots fired as Phuket former French Foreign Legion servicemen pulls gun on Russian tourist Eakkapop Thongtub Phuket expat Gerard Pecherstorfer, formerly of the French Foreign Legion, is taken into custody by Patong Police. Photo: Eakkapop Thongtub PHUKET: -- A 62-year-old French expat in Patong has been charged for pulling a gun out and firing it in the middle of a fight with a Russian tourist today (Feb 7) after the Russian had left an expired passport as collateral for a rented motorbike. Frenchman Gerard Pecherstorfer, who has lived in Phuket for 14 years, was taken into custody by Patong Traffic Police on 50 Pi Rd (Hasip Pi Rd) around noon after police were informed of shots fired in the neighbourhood. Mr Pecherstorfer, who according to his Facebook profile was a member of French Foreign Legion from 1986 to 2002, had pulled out a 9mm handgun amid a fight with Russian tourist Sergery Antonov, Patong Police Chief Col Chaiwat Uikum told The Phuket News. The incident tracks back to on Jan 19, when Mr Antonov, from Moscow, and a friend rented a motorbike from Mr Pecherstorfer’s wife, Col Chaiwat said. “They rented a Honda PCX for one day and left Mr Antonov’s passport as collateral,” he explained. The men did not return the motorbike until Jan 26, but then paid the rental fee and asked to continue to rent the bike, Col Chaiwat explained. “When the men returned today (Feb 7) to continue renting the bike, Mr Pecherstorfer’s wife said they couldn’t as by now she had realised that that passport given as collateral had expired,” he said. The wife said they had to give her a valid passport, and Mr Antonov, who celebrated his 40th birthday yesterday (Feb 6), said he would go back to his hotel to fetch his current one. Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/shots-fired-as-phuket-former-french-foreign-legion-servicemen-pulls-gun-on-russian-tourist-60945.php -- © Copyright Phuket News 2017-02-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 How quickly things get out of control, happy birthday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 'Mr Pecherstorfer, who according to his Facebook profile was a member of French Foreign Legion from 1986 to 2002, ' So he has a personality disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 10 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said: The Frenchman are in deep shit, shooting a gun twice in the air, not a very smart move. A good Thai friend of mine are doing similar rental businesses here in Pattaya and he don't use/have a gun. He will likely be booted out after serving time, unless he got cash, lots of cash. Imagine that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I wonder whether Pattaya or Phuket will get the title of 'SE Asia's Chicago' The pendulum swings frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Still fighting the Napolianic war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 It's said that men join the Legion to forget their past. He'll be wanting to forget this!! Never mind, there must be an opening for another bike shop in Phnom Penh, or.....anywhere but Phuket, when he gets out, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I wonder whether Pattaya or Phuket will get the title of 'SE Asia's Chicago' The pendulum swings frequently. Hmmmm, you best look to the Philippines to bestow that award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, DoctorG said: Still fighting the Napolianic war? What was the war with Naples about? Spaghetti Puttanesca, maybe? sorry, just pulling your leg (Napoleonic Wars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 knew it was wrong, but just too lazy to look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 This would make a nice addition to my thread titled " Thai Frisk Patrol". Cant imagine the frog was carrying all that stuff on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketboy Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 7 hours ago, Old Croc said: No evidence that document was used to travel, in fact very unlikely. He used it as collateral to rent a bike and ran away when the renter discovered it was an old document. (I don't believe bike renters have the right to hold customers passports) 7 hours ago, manarak said: correct, they aren't allowed to hold passports Correct, nobody is allowed to hold your passport, nobody. You do not own your passport, it remains the property of the government that issued the passport. I was told by my embassy a few years ago that it was illegal under international law for someone to hold on to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Phuketboy said: Correct, nobody is allowed to hold your passport, nobody. You do not own your passport, it remains the property of the government that issued the passport. I was told by my embassy a few years ago that it was illegal under international law for someone to hold on to it. Yes but what about reality ? No passport, no bike rental, take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardflory Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Nobody is allowed to hold your passport, EXCEPTIONS: YOUR government embassy / authorized official of said embassy, ... or ANY Immigration officer AT YOU PORT OF ENTRY for investigation, ... or you are placed UNDER ARREST by police - held for safe keeping and positive identification, investigation and in theory to notify your countries embassy, YOUR PASSPORT is NOT your property, it is the property of the GOVERNMENT that issued the passport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 28 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Yes but what about reality ? No passport, no bike rental, take it or leave it. Either that or 10 k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Yes but what about reality ? No passport, no bike rental, take it or leave it. Some people should have taken the latter option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, edwardflory said: Nobody is allowed to hold your passport, EXCEPTIONS: YOUR government embassy / authorized official of said embassy, ... or ANY Immigration officer AT YOU PORT OF ENTRY for investigation, ... or you are placed UNDER ARREST by police - held for safe keeping and positive identification, investigation and in theory to notify your countries embassy, YOUR PASSPORT is NOT your property, it is the property of the GOVERNMENT that issued the passport It a handy thing to hold in future negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The former Democrat politician that shot a dog dead outside a 7/11 in Bangkok used the defence that he was carrying a loaded gun in his car without a carry permit because he was on the way to withdraw B200,000 from a bank or ATM. The court accepted this dubious excuse and acquitted him of carrying a loaded gun in a public place without a good reason. This defence has been accepted by courts many times but amount of cash carried has to be specifically B200k or more. However, carrying someone else's registered gun is unlikely to be accepted, unless that person is with you and unable to use the gun themselves for whatever reason. Of course discharging the gun in public without a good reason is a seperate offence from carrying it. All in all, he could get over 10 years for this because carrying the gun, the ammunition and discharging it are all seperate offences and he could also be charged with attempted murder. He is lucky the shots he fired didn't come down and hit anyone. Personally, I hope he does jail time and then gets deported and blacklisted for life. Let the French police deal with their own rubbish. His wife should also go to prison for giving her registered gun to someone else who used it to commit an offence. I am all for responsible gun ownership but those who abuse the privilege should be made to pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhummad Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, louse1953 said: Either that or 10 k. There's a great little laundry just off Soi BuaKhao that only takes a photocopy which is nice. Bikes are a little old but very well priced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, jacko45k said: I wonder whether Pattaya or Phuket will get the title of 'SE Asia's Chicago' The pendulum swings frequently. To be fair isn't this about Patong , or is that part of Pattaya . If it starts with a P maybe they are all full of hoodlums . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Phuketboy said: Correct, nobody is allowed to hold your passport, nobody. You do not own your passport, it remains the property of the government that issued the passport. I was told by my embassy a few years ago that it was illegal under international law for someone to hold on to it. except... there is no such thing as "international law" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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