AGareth2 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, gdgbb said: Nonsense, he has been involved in boiler rooms for many years, well before his mother died and she was involved in the business also. Why are you trying to portray him as some paragon of virtue and how come you have suddenly popped up here as a new member overflowing with information about this Toby? and how do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryinTH Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, AGareth2 said: and how do you know this? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out who are the crooks in Pattaya and who are legit business people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 So Thai police now have power of arrest in Cambodia do they? very good soon be London, Paris and New York then. So Mr pm was right, the world will be using Thai as the first language the way its going, making big strides now aren't we. (just 1 thing has anybody told the Cambodians yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On 2/9/2017 at 7:25 PM, gdgbb said: The thing is, though, that contrary to what you claim, most are not "swept under the table" [sic]. Here's a thought, if you pay a bribe, "under the carpet", would that, too, result in something being "swept under the table"? depends how thick the pile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 hours ago, AGareth2 said: and how do you know this? A little birdie told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 fair dinkum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 hours ago, gdgbb said: Nonsense, he has been involved in boiler rooms for many years, well before his mother died and she was involved in the business also. Why are you trying to portray him as some paragon of virtue and how come you have suddenly popped up here as a new member overflowing with information about this Toby? No loss. Natural born scumbag. This story has gone called ... where are the two hitmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davethailand Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out who are the crooks in Pattaya and who are legit business people. The bent ones are all still in business lol (I'm talking about bars).:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Does anyone know if Toby is actually back in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 5 hours ago, champers said: Does anyone know if Toby is actually back in Thailand? Appearently not arrested. Many conflicting reports. https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/police-deny-thai-murder-arrest-report-124998/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 4 hours ago, pegman said: Appearently not arrested. Many conflicting reports. https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/police-deny-thai-murder-arrest-report-124998/ I think bad copy, poor translation or speed reading may be an issue here. There's no report of anyone being arrested just a report of someone being detained. Add a 'statement' from a Nongprue policeman saying the British Embassy had blocked extradition when the victim's wife showed up hoping to see the alleged killer and an English language radio station reporting the suspect had already been flown directly to the police station in one of their helicopters and you have the complete, confused picture. Then again, it could all be yet another case of willful obfuscation on behalf of the police and certain privileged entities that feel the need to be seen to be distanced from the whole affair despite their vested interests dictating otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryinTH Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 All this drama over 8m baht, which seems like chump change if you own 3 houses and can lease a Porsche.. or two. The person who put out the hit on him must feel pretty freaking stupid now to get all this attention and possible jail time over 8m baht. Probably didn't expect this case to blow over like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Good question , will we ever read anything about Toby in the Thai media again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gang Warily Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 er, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas32 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 19 hours ago, JerryinTH said: All this drama over 8m baht, which seems like chump change if you own 3 houses and can lease a Porsche.. or two. The person who put out the hit on him must feel pretty freaking stupid now to get all this attention and possible jail time over 8m baht. Probably didn't expect this case to blow over like this. Lets clear all this up now ..? Tony owed 8 million 5 thousand baht of business venture together with Toby and it is believed that business conflicts led to the murder .. Also Toby has a number of business venture here in Thailand / Cambodia.. Plus a cafe not too far away from the gym where Tony was executed .. But still there are two murders on the loose also it didn't help that Toby enter Cambodia without any passport or identification plus working illegally in Cambodia and was arrest at a cafe at the International Airport in Phnom Penh on the 15th. He is now being questioned how he enter Cambodia by the immigration police.. Also RTP and court's capacity, That the department of the Interior Ministry to investigate and implement procedures nothing more at this stage to go by so far and Cambodia Police Department investigation and procedures Ministry of suspects presented to represent the prosecution for questioning procedures ..So all the RTP have is probable grounds for murder from my understanding .. also if found guilty by a court in Cambodia , he must serve the term of his punishment in Cambodia. Also after completing his sentence, he would be immediately deported from Cambodia if there was no request for his extradition from Thai police, It was also falsely reported on Saturday that Cambodian authorities were expected to hand over Mr. Nelham to Thai authorities, with Cambodian police denying knowledge of the report on Sunday. Thai police had sought help from their Cambodian counterparts to hunt down several foreigners suspected of being involved in the murder of Mr. Kenway after they reportedly fled to Cambodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 All bad guys , who cares. let them all go to jail or better kill each other. These guys do nothing good for Thailand or us expatiates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryinTH Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, onemorechang said: These guys do nothing good for Thailand or us expatiates. Unfortunately 'they' own some of the most popular nightlife places, bars, restaurants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkapiPete Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 6 hours ago, JerryinTH said: Unfortunately 'they' own some of the most popular nightlife places, bars, restaurants... They also seem to be owning the authorities in Thailand as well as Cambodia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just waiting for news , that's all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factfinding Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 On 14-2-2017 at 11:43 PM, champers said: Does anyone know if Toby is actually back in Thailand? No he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 On 2/10/2017 at 5:37 AM, Factfinding said: Nothing dark about the restaurant. Popular, good. At least he genuinely worked for his money, Restaurants and Bars and other cash businesses are commonly used as money laundering places. If a person sells drugs or gets illegal booking money, cash businesses are ways to get the monies back into circulation, deposited in their banks, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOfWiles Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 New story published in the PP Post. Summary: Nelhams has been charged with five offences in Cambodia, all related to staying/entering illegally. Nelhams and Turner apparently frequented the bar which Abel Caldeira previously worked. http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/alleged-killer-frequented-capital-bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 5 hours ago, LandOfWiles said: New story published in the PP Post. Summary: Nelhams has been charged with five offences in Cambodia, all related to staying/entering illegally. Nelhams and Turner apparently frequented the bar which Abel Caldeira previously worked. http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/alleged-killer-frequented-capital-bar I note that it is claimed he entered Cambodia without a passport? I'd guess he has his passport tucked away somewhere for his escape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOfWiles Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 17 hours ago, AlexRich said: I note that it is claimed he entered Cambodia without a passport? I'd guess he has his passport tucked away somewhere for his escape? Yeah, I am not sure why he did that given it is so easy to get a longterm visa in Cambodia. He likely wanted to remain completely anonymous for whatever reason but it looks like it has backfired. Prey Sar prison seems a long way off the helicopter ride that Factfinding was boasting about. He could spend up to three years imprisoned in Cambodia according to another report that I read. The article also shows a direct link between Caldeira, Nelhams and Turner which will make the prosecution's job easier if he is ever brought to trial in Thailand. Though justice seems arbitrary here and can easily be bought, the fact that his restaurant was closed down suggests he might not have any high-profile friends in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryinTH Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, LandOfWiles said: Yeah, I am not sure why he did that given it is so easy to get a longterm visa in Cambodia. He likely wanted to remain completely anonymous for whatever reason but it looks like it has backfired. Prey Sar prison seems a long way off the helicopter ride that Factfinding was boasting about. He could spend up to three years imprisoned in Cambodia according to another report that I read. The article also shows a direct link between Caldeira, Nelhams and Turner which will make the prosecution's job easier if he is ever brought to trial in Thailand. Though justice seems arbitrary here and can easily be bought, the fact that his restaurant was closed down suggests he might not have any high-profile friends in Thailand. Maybe his 'high profile friends' are the ones that closed the restaurant down? A dead cow can't give milk.. A locked up Toby would have trouble making wire transfers, I'd assume.. so let's close his place down, make off with any valuables, sell the rest and put it back on the market. That's how real 'high profile people' operate... I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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