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I don't want to learn local language

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Quite agree with you op, & when 'they' don't understand english, just shout at them.

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1 minute ago, kenk24 said:

then you can converse about the topics that you find important... they don't just speak about toenails.

I am sorry but I am not god father of everything:passifier:

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2 minutes ago, faraday said:

Quite agree with you op, & when 'they' don't understand english, just shout at them.

I used to shout at them but not any more after one of them pulled the knife in my face

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1 hour ago, kenk24 said:

you can direct the conversation to things that you are curious about. 

only direct the conversation but not change the way they think and talk about!

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I would be more concerned about the type of gals I was dating if when they cut my nails they make it a "talking point" amoungst their friends.

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23 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

 

If you do not like some of the things they talk about, being able to speak the language will enable you to sometimes direct a conversation to some of the things you are interested in... conversation does not always have to be trivial. 

 

And Thai3 - that is not true for everyone. Some people can learn to speak so they can be understood by most. It takes time and effort and desire, which you can easily brush off with silly excuses/comments about subject matter. I find most Thai very genuine and quite willing to confide their concerns in life. They can also be quite funny and light hearted. 

 

Not being able to speak, I think you miss out on many of the joys of living here. It does take time and effort to learn. If you don't want to make that effort, that is fine, but don't blame your inability to learn a language on an excuse that you think Thai people are shallow and have nothing to say when you can't even talk with them and confirm that... 

Excellent post that sums up the topic very well.

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Learning Thai is one of the most useful things that I have ever done in my life and I did not put a lot of effort in it - my Thai is far from great. However, beggars AND parasites completely leave me alone after a few words. I get charged reasonable prices most of the time without much bargaining and young beautiful girls don't seem to mind spending time with me as we can chit-chat. If you don't want to learn Thai, that is up to you, but you are really missing out on a lot.

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Even in his English language OP I find Redwinecheese's use of language a little obscure. I shiver at the thought  of what his attempts at Thai might be like. I pick up European languages easily, but Thai has beaten me into reliance on body language.

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6 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

Learning Thai is one of the most useful things that I have ever done in my life and I did not put a lot of effort in it - my Thai is far from great. However, beggars AND parasites completely leave me alone after a few words. I get charged reasonable prices most of the time without much bargaining and young beautiful girls don't seem to mind spending time with me as we can chit-chat. If you don't want to learn Thai, that is up to you, but you are really missing out on a lot.

 

 

couldn't agree more.

This rule has to be applied at any other country of touristic relevance.

And in most cases, the lingo is not difficult to learn. Look like a Gringo in South America? Some Spanish certainly helps to keep the scum at bay (maybe not if they produce firearms, though). Speaking some Indonesian in Bali? OFF the beggars go.....

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21 minutes ago, redwinecheese said:

only direct the conversation but not change the way they think and talk about!

here is a novel thought for you... maybe there is something you can learn from them, beyond language of course...

 

when I meet people, such as poor Thai and find them happier than most middle class and even upper middle class people back home. I figure there is a lesson there to be learned... 

 

unless of course you know everything already... 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, oxo1947 said:

I think in most cases--saying you do not want to speak it is really an inability to learn it.

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I put myself squarely in that category. 

 

Lived in S/America for a short while--spoke passable Spanish, worked on German/Swedish ships 2 years, got by OK. Thai has been a hill just to steep to climb for me---maybe the age...70 ..or maybe I am thicker than I thought, but try as I may I find the tones just to hard to master, I certainly don't have the energy to keep trying lessons any more.. Would I want to speak it fluently if someone said for a million Baht you can just flip this switch...sure, even more so since I moved up country...to Bahn Nok. When you leave the tourist belt you really find how nice it would be to communicate.

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Its a bit of a put down to say that Thai People only talk about rubbish--I have some  bilingual Thai friends, & its nice that they converse & take the time to explain things to me.

You say flip a switch. There is a language device out there that translates out loud when you speak into it. Right now it is for Chines and French, but eventually it will do Thai.

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Unbelievably stupid reasons for not learning the local lingo.

If, as far as you're concerned, the only things Thais talk about are somtam, lakhorn and gossip, then you're showing precisely what kind of Thais you're hanging with.

Trade up to Thais who don't work in bars, restaurants or massage parlours and you should find the breadth of topics discussed much increased.

 

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1 hour ago, kenk24 said:

 

If you do not like some of the things they talk about, being able to speak the language will enable you to sometimes direct a conversation to some of the things you are interested in... conversation does not always have to be trivial. 

 

And Thai3 - that is not true for everyone. Some people can learn to speak so they can be understood by most. It takes time and effort and desire, which you can easily brush off with silly excuses/comments about subject matter. I find most Thai very genuine and quite willing to confide their concerns in life. They can also be quite funny and light hearted. 

 

Not being able to speak, I think you miss out on many of the joys of living here. It does take time and effort to learn. If you don't want to make that effort, that is fine, but don't blame your inability to learn a language on an excuse that you think Thai people are shallow and have nothing to say when you can't even talk with them and confirm that... 

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2 hours ago, ghworker2010 said:

I totally agree with this opinion. The less trivial conversations that I have to partake in the better for me. 

 

You mean trivial discussions such as this one?

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9 hours ago, berybert said:

If you don't speak the language how do you know your finger nails are the main topic of conversation ?

Exactly. I knew a guy married to a thai outide his league. She insists he not learn Thai. Now why you suppose that is???

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