nontabury Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On February 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Seligne2 said: I find that 80 percent of the working girls you call "hookers" are rural and uneducated with two kids (living with ma and pa) to support. I do not find them morally defective in any way. I think they would say that they will do whatever is necessary to care for their families. I would trust women in this category. There may be 20 percent (that percentage I suspect is a bit high), who are turned on by the lifestyle, the money, the dangers involved, etc.) I would avoid getting involved with one of this group. I just wonder where you got your figure of 80% from. Many years ago when I did frequent the Bar scene etc,. I wound have put a figure of less than 50% for those girls who had a child. And while it's true that some did feel compelled to enter the sex industry in order to support their child/s and parents. Many more did so due to persuasion from there Friends,who were already in the industry. Others because they were basically lazy,yet wanted the finer things in life. With others maybe a drug or gambling addiction. What you need to ask yourself, why did so many girls with the same background, not enter the sex industry. Perhaps they had a supported family,for example. I would add, a bar owner( Thai) once said to me, "a person who is prepared to ignore the past history of these girls, must be someone special",some would possible use a different word. Personnally I would never be able to accept such a girl,it would always be on my mind,proving if nothing else,that I'm not special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 If I took up with a sex trade worker and it became public knowledge, my father would suspend my inheritance, whilst his wife would execute the power of attorney they hold on my behalf seizing my money for fear it would be lost to a gold digger. My family would tell me off and my younger more socially responsible relatives would call me a sex trafficker or an exploiter of women. My co-workers would ridicule me behind my back, and my employer would perhaps encourage me to go look for work elsewhere. Everyday I would worry/ wonder if I was infected with the leftovers of a previous client, especially warts or herpes. After a short time together, and our inability to have an intelligent discussion, I would probably ask myself why I took up with someone well below my social position, and of limited education and intellectual capability. Then I would call the people who specialize in these matters and ask them to come haul away the trash. Happy? The cold harsh reality is that well adjusted men who have some redeeming features do not need to take up with a prostitute. Sorry, but marrying one of these sperm receptacles is what losers do. These hookers are for the most part mentally ill and are incapable of maintaining a stable relationship, just like the loser farangs they marry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 14/02/2017 at 4:46 PM, rogeroc said: No and yes and trust is an overated emotion. Most girls I know are honest, you'll only have to listen carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogeroc Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, eldragon said: Here's where I don't agree with you. Where do these girls get off expecting an "allowance" that equates to three or four times as much as their potential suitors back home (farmers, factory workers, bar backs, etc.) could earn in a month? Or double what you're average salaryman who would never date them makes in BKK? I've always found this to be one of the absurd parts of entertaining a relationship with these girls. Their expectations are unrealistic or skewed by all the idiots who throw money at their friends and family. I guess the answer to that is that most professions that the majority of people don't want to engage in pay better ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 i saw 2 last week,one playing for scotland and one for france. they were doing it on the RUGBY FIELD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogeroc Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: If I took up with a sex trade worker and it became public knowledge, my father would suspend my inheritance, whilst his wife would execute the power of attorney they hold on my behalf seizing my money for fear it would be lost to a gold digger. My family would tell me off and my younger more socially responsible relatives would call me a sex trafficker or an exploiter of women. My co-workers would ridicule me behind my back, and my employer would perhaps encourage me to go look for work elsewhere. Everyday I would worry/ wonder if I was infected with the leftovers of a previous client, especially warts or herpes. After a short time together, and our inability to have an intelligent discussion, I would probably ask myself why I took up with someone well below my social position, and of limited education and intellectual capability. Then I would call the people who specialize in these matters and ask them to come haul away the trash. Happy? The cold harsh reality is that well adjusted men who have some redeeming features do not need to take up with a prostitute. Sorry, but marrying one of these sperm receptacles is what losers do. These hookers are for the most part mentally ill and are incapable of maintaining a stable relationship, just like the loser farangs they marry. So you have narrow minded parents and employers, i guess most of us do Some men pay for sex for reasons which you clearly do not undersand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, micmichd said: Most girls I know are honest, you'll only have to listen carefully. Brilliant statement. Can I like this twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 So what is the difference between one who sleeps around for money and one who sleeps around for free.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, meatboy said: i saw 2 last week,one playing for scotland and one for france. they were doing it on the RUGBY FIELD. They were only amateurs,the professionals play for the better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, chuang said: So what is the difference between one who sleeps around for money and one who sleeps around for free.... The one who does is for money can have sex with anyone they want and tell you he (or she) is a customer. And you have to accept it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 No for me it does not matter if your wife is a hooker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, smotherb said: Trust may be overrated to you, but for me, trust is absolutely necessary for any lasting relationship. It really makes no difference if it is the love and emotion of a relationship with a woman, the comaraderie of a relationship with a friend, the community of a relationship with a religion, or the reciprocity of a relationship with a business partner. If I can't trust you, you will never get close to me. The difficulty with trust is that it is based on past performance. And nobody can predict the oft surprising future. Some are definitely more perceptive than others in this area and that trait might be a great indicator of success. But think of all the marriages and partnerships that start in warranted trust, but end in bitterness... and so, we make ourselves vulnerable, and the wise, vulnerable only in degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, kenk24 said: The difficulty with trust is that it is based on past performance. And nobody can predict the oft surprising future. Some are definitely more perceptive than others in this area and that trait might be a great indicator of success. But think of all the marriages and partnerships that start in warranted trust, but end in bitterness... and so, we make ourselves vulnerable, and the wise, vulnerable only in degrees. Trust is a mix of honesty and reliability. Of course, you can never predict the future, but you can exclude certain risks (like pregnancy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportRider Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Everybody pays for sex. Either financially, emotionally or relationship-wise. They are forms of payment. Some parts of the world are less understanding about the interchangeable nature of these. One is not necessarily better or worse than another. If somebody says "I never pay for sex" I respond: "What, you only want sex if you can take it for free? Like a rapist, you mean?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 The difficulty with trust is that it is based on past performance. And nobody can predict the oft surprising future. Some are definitely more perceptive than others in this area and that trait might be a great indicator of success. But think of all the marriages and partnerships that start in warranted trust, but end in bitterness... and so, we make ourselves vulnerable, and the wise, vulnerable only in degrees. Trust works two ways too. I wonder how many men that have been bilked by Thai women were serious about them and not just entertaining themselves by sending em $1,000 and a few love letters every month. The first Thai girl I ever broke up with told me, "I knew you'd never be serious with me." That stung. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 A cash transaction is probably the most honest way of having sex there is. There is no pretence, no tell me you love me, no will you call me, no will you respect me in the morning BS. Both parties get exactly what they want out of the deal and everyone goes home happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozziefrog Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hi everyone, Nice subject here. Has anyone ever calculated , ratio sex/dollar with a "wife" ( Europeen or Yank or Canadian etc...) met the "proper way" with proper marriage , compare with the hiring of a sex worker . That would be an interesting one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, eldragon said: Trust works two ways too. I wonder how many men that have been bilked by Thai women were serious about them and not just entertaining themselves by sending em $1,000 and a few love letters every month. The first Thai girl I ever broke up with told me, "I knew you'd never be serious with me." That stung. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Don't mistake certainty for security. A Thai girl usually gets many promises from Farangs, but only a few Farangs keep their promises. So, Thai girls do what every economist would do: diversify the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I flipped this open and read it because I get the news updates and it was curious of who the heck would write such stuff. No offense, but it will probably ne taken that way, but eldragon and most you guys got way toooo much time on your hands. Makes me wonder if most ever go outside and get some fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, chuang said: So what is the difference between one who sleeps around for money and one who sleeps around for free.... The difference is stupidity. Look at all the money she is missing out on. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, nsimmons said: I have been visiting Thailand for 15 years and lved in Phuket for four. I used to ask the girls either in bars or massage "Do you have any kids?", and because 99% of them said yes, and how their Thai husband or boyfiend left them for almost any reason, (one was was at Uni 22yo virgin, he was a soldier and said he loved her, they had sex a couple of times, she gets pregnant, so out of school and two years later leaves her for a 17yo pretty girl with no kids.) I now ask "How many kids do you have? And 99% of the time they say one, two or three, and that they are with her mum in her village (usually in Issan), and she supports mum, dad and the kids, I hav stopped calling them Hooker, or in Thai Soapany, and call tmem "unmarried mothers" or "single mothers" if asked by peopl that have no understanding that their is no welfare, or chid maintenance laws or Govt assistance of any kind for "single mothers", (you can in fact starve here unlike Australia and most developed countries) they do what is required due to love of family. If you think about it, they may get the odd Brad Pitt cheating on Angelina, but 99% of customers are over 50yo, over weight and drunk. Could you have slept with a fat over 50yo drunk Australian woman when you were 24yo for the $40 yu get so you can feed your kids or get dad the heart operation he needs (or a new cow)? I personally thnk they have "the moral high ground" in this situation, and most would jump at th chance to marry of be the full time girfriend of a guy if he could provide 40,000BHT a month plus living epenses so she could send 30,000Bht home. I have personally seen (unknown to her) the receipt for funds she sent (2,500Bht) the day after I gave a single mother 3,000Bht for the night before. I have never paid for sex in Aus, coz there is welfare and so the only girls that do that job usually have a drug problem, or other issues and look to me like HIV on legs. But here I have slept with a few unmarried mothers that were attractive, honest and willing to do things to support her family, that I can only respect, not deride. NS Still prostitute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ozziefrog said: Hi everyone, Nice subject here. Has anyone ever calculated , ratio sex/dollar with a "wife" ( Europeen or Yank or Canadian etc...) met the "proper way" with proper marriage , compare with the hiring of a sex worker . That would be an interesting one... The flaw in this is that you put a dollar figure to it. For some men it's far more then just money. But for the westerner male that got chapped by his western wife the anger he carries makes it all about risk assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, rogeroc said: Have you read Post 93? Putting full trust in anyone is unwise Yes just read it , so what dose not change the fact that they are still hookers and prostitute . there a lots of thai woman that work hard to bring up there kids with out being dirty filthy prostitute . hookers are hookres and a pice of s???. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Marry a hooker...never. I don't eat out of dustbins either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 It would matter to me. Never had the need for a hooker and never will. I see no circumstance where I could see past her past, regardless of the degree of affection I felt for her, and she'd be cut adrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, georgemandm said: Yes just read it , so what dose not change the fact that they are still hookers and prostitute . there a lots of thai woman that work hard to bring up there kids with out being dirty filthy prostitute . All of the ones I had were spotless. Cleaner in fact than a few of the western women I'd slept with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 A troll post eliciting a totally predictable response from men who value women for what they are and boys who still believe that all whores are evil and virgins pure as the driven snow. For f-ck's sake grow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemandm Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, giddyup said: Most of the ones I had were spotless. Good happy for you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I think my missus was a fullback or possibly dummy half but defo not a hooker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, georgemandm said: Good happy for you . Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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