hdkane Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Hello, Are there any tangible benefits to Thais who marry a foreigner, but choose to remain and live in Thailand? I know that assets acquired after marriage are split 50-50. Debts as well. Anything else that would be good to know? Thank you in advance for any positive information or anecdotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 only have to show 400k to immigration if married, 800k for retirement visa......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, hdkane said: Debts as well. Not if acquired before marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick220675 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The benefits to a Thai or the foreigner? If I look in my village there are many young girls who have a child and no partner, a few of them have left there Thai husband after domestic violence. But most were dumped when they became pregnant. Those girls all want a foreigner as the the benefits are obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Benefits to the Thai partner - Some pension schemes pay a widow's pension. Probably have to be married (or at least in a civil partnership) to qualify. Easier to gain a long term visitor visa to the spouse's country (UK is 10-year max). Face - I think that marriage has more status in the eyes of the Thai family/friends. Of course, the highest status husband is an Englishman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamBeast Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 First of all, the most important thing is preparing a prenup before getting married. To anyone. In the world. It's roughly 30,000 baht and will save you a lot of trouble. This also eliminates the possibility of having to split assets if your partner goes rogue. As for the benefits, there are several, such as being able to have legitimate children, make the Thai family gain face, fulfilling the dream of every young Thai girl, and possibly pension stuff depending on the situation. Also makes things lots easier if you're looking at eventually gaining citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 They know they can get away with far more than if married to a Thai, some don't even cook, clean or you know what. Would not last two weeks with a Thai husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Man Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 They get to marry the man they love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamBeast Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, thai3 said: They know they can get away with far more than if married to a Thai, some don't even cook, clean or you know what. Would not last two weeks with a Thai husband. Correct. It is true that Thai men seem to have higher standards when it comes to choosing a Thai girl. Most Thai girls who are "train wrecks" such as bargirls, single moms, ex-prostitutes, etc. know that no Thai men will marry them - but some foreign men will do. I'm married to a Thai and only had 3 criteria: 1) Virginity 2) Complete family with a mother and father who are happily married 3) University diploma The fact that they "can cook" and "can clean" isn't absolutely required, but it sure adds up to the "perceived standard" of the girl. Note that I'm still in my 20's so older men might judge this with different criteria. I'd also add that most Thai girls expect to live a better quality life (i.e. money) when they marry a foreigner. While being a foreigner doesn't always mean being richer, it is still seen as so by the Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Benefits to the Thai partner - Some pension schemes pay a widow's pension. Probably have to be married (or at least in a civil partnership) to qualify. Easier to gain a long term visitor visa to the spouse's country (UK is 10-year max). Face - I think that marriage has more status in the eyes of the Thai family/friends. Of course, the highest status husband is an Englishman. And preferably from Yorkshire !!Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, thai3 said: They know they can get away with far more than if married to a Thai, some don't even cook, clean or you know what. Would not last two weeks with a Thai husband. or you know what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight8 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Zilch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 None. Divorced since more than 25 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 13 hours ago, kannot said: only have to show 400k to immigration if married, 800k for retirement visa......... He asked if there are any benifits for "Thais"..... who marry a foreigner and choose to remain in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Certainly not always a benefit to the falang. I was all set to tie the knot, been to the Aussie embassy and filled out all the paperwork only thing left was to go to the Amphur office and make it official. Then someone on this forum pointed out that I could actually lose some of my Aussie pension once Centrelink became aware that I was married. That was the end of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 11 hours ago, SiamBeast said: Correct. It is true that Thai men seem to have higher standards when it comes to choosing a Thai girl. Most Thai girls who are "train wrecks" such as bargirls, single moms, ex-prostitutes, etc. know that no Thai men will marry them - but some foreign men will do. I'm married to a Thai and only had 3 criteria: 1) Virginity 2) Complete family with a mother and father who are happily married 3) University diploma The fact that they "can cook" and "can clean" isn't absolutely required, but it sure adds up to the "perceived standard" of the girl. Note that I'm still in my 20's so older men might judge this with different criteria. I'd also add that most Thai girls expect to live a better quality life (i.e. money) when they marry a foreigner. While being a foreigner doesn't always mean being richer, it is still seen as so by the Thais. looks like your requirements are like shopping for a domestic appliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Yes, if the foreigner does anything illegal and leaves for a short time, the woman or a family member will go to the Police and act as an informant with evidence to bar him from the country and she and her family will divide up his personal property and assets! Then there are those rare cases where the foreigner simply disappears and the personal property and assets are divided up. In my opinion, most everyone is a better dealer with the financial retreat and the priority now is financial security for the woman and her family. Most men/women will never understand that as they are in denial or under the spell of a narcissist manipulation and the illusion of love after they meet a bar person or with a single ad. If you play in their playground, expect surprises. Most everyone is looking for love in all the wrong places and they end up in quick sand. Sadly, some will even commit suicide over the illusions and manipulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, SiamBeast said: Correct. It is true that Thai men seem to have higher standards when it comes to choosing a Thai girl. Most Thai girls who are "train wrecks" such as bargirls, single moms, ex-prostitutes, etc. know that no Thai men will marry them - but some foreign men will do. I'm married to a Thai and only had 3 criteria: 1) Virginity 2) Complete family with a mother and father who are happily married 3) University diploma The fact that they "can cook" and "can clean" isn't absolutely required, but it sure adds up to the "perceived standard" of the girl. Note that I'm still in my 20's so older men might judge this with different criteria. I'd also add that most Thai girls expect to live a better quality life (i.e. money) when they marry a foreigner. While being a foreigner doesn't always mean being richer, it is still seen as so by the Thais. How was her "virginity" confirmed, bloody sheets hung out on the balcony for all to see, a doctor's examination, her word, what? Who decided that her parents were happily married, you? As far as diplomas, most aren't worth the paper they're written on. Edited February 21, 2017 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancbk Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 14 hours ago, kannot said: only have to show 400k to immigration if married, 800k for retirement visa......... The OP said "Are there any tangible benefits to Thais who marry a foreigner, but choose to remain and live in Thailand?" Not are there any benefits to the foreigner. Many reasons for a Thai to want to stay in Thailand after marrying a foreigner :- Wants to remain close to her family and friends Wants to remain close to her land Doesn't want to live in a foreign country Then of course there is the fact that probably a large percentage of foreign men who come here and get married do it so they can stay here, not so they can take their Thai bride back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancbk Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 11 hours ago, SiamBeast said: Correct. It is true that Thai men seem to have higher standards when it comes to choosing a Thai girl. Most Thai girls who are "train wrecks" such as bargirls, single moms, ex-prostitutes, etc. know that no Thai men will marry them - but some foreign men will do. I'm married to a Thai and only had 3 criteria: 1) Virginity 2) Complete family with a mother and father who are happily married 3) University diploma The fact that they "can cook" and "can clean" isn't absolutely required, but it sure adds up to the "perceived standard" of the girl. Note that I'm still in my 20's so older men might judge this with different criteria. I'd also add that most Thai girls expect to live a better quality life (i.e. money) when they marry a foreigner. While being a foreigner doesn't always mean being richer, it is still seen as so by the Thais. Are you a virgin too? I have very high standards (much higher than yours) but one thing I would never do is want to marry a virgin. You need a girl who has been round the block a few times and knows how to really have fun in bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, seancbk said: The OP said "Are there any tangible benefits to Thais who marry a foreigner, but choose to remain and live in Thailand?" Not are there any benefits to the foreigner. Many reasons for a Thai to want to stay in Thailand after marrying a foreigner :- Wants to remain close to her family and friends Wants to remain close to her land Doesn't want to live in a foreign country Then of course there is the fact that probably a large percentage of foreign men who come here and get married do it so they can stay here, not so they can take their Thai bride back home. Being married to a Thai doesn't give you any more perks than not, other than only having 400K in the bank instead of 800K. You still have to report every 90 days and you still have to get the appropriate visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 18 hours ago, SiamBeast said: .I'm married to a Thai and only had 3 criteria: 1) Virginity 2) Complete family with a mother and father who are happily married 3) University diploma And how is one Certain that she is a virgin--oh learned one...??.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancbk Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, giddyup said: 22 minutes ago, seancbk said: The OP said "Are there any tangible benefits to Thais who marry a foreigner, but choose to remain and live in Thailand?" Not are there any benefits to the foreigner. Many reasons for a Thai to want to stay in Thailand after marrying a foreigner :- Wants to remain close to her family and friends Wants to remain close to her land Doesn't want to live in a foreign country Then of course there is the fact that probably a large percentage of foreign men who come here and get married do it so they can stay here, not so they can take their Thai bride back home. Being married to a Thai doesn't give you any more perks than not, other than only having 400K in the bank instead of 800K. You still have to report every 90 days and you still have to get the appropriate visa. Again, you are talking about benefits FOR THE FOREIGNER. The OP asked what benefits there are FOR THE THAI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 6 hours ago, oxo1947 said: And how is one Certain that she is a virgin--oh learned one...??.......... When asking the Thai lady out he asks for medical proof and demands a physical examination and he being an expert at 20 something the Thai lady will (deleted) whoops except of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, seancbk said: Again, you are talking about benefits FOR THE FOREIGNER. The OP asked what benefits there are FOR THE THAI. Did you say this? Then of course there is the fact that probably a large percentage of foreign men who come here and get married do it so they can stay here, not so they can take their Thai bride back home. I was responding that in fact there are very little in the way of benefits for the foreigner who marries a Thai and stays in Thailand. Edited February 21, 2017 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancbk Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, giddyup said: Did you say this? Then of course there is the fact that probably a large percentage of foreign men who come here and get married do it so they can stay here, not so they can take their Thai bride back home. Yes I did, but after I answered the OPs question, which was 'what are the benefits to the Thai person' That line you've quoted (out of context I might add) was just me adding another reason why a Thai marrying a foreigner would choose to stay living in Thailand, although from the Farang's point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 13 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said: And preferably from Yorkshire !! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Yorkshire??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, seancbk said: Yes I did, but after I answered the OPs question, which was 'what are the benefits to the Thai person' That line you've quoted (out of context I might add) was just me adding another reason why a Thai marrying a foreigner would choose to stay living in Thailand, although from the Farang's point of view. Gobbledegook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, giddyup said: Being married to a Thai doesn't give you any more perks than not, other than only having 400K in the bank instead of 800K. You still have to report every 90 days and you still have to get the appropriate visa. Yeah, and all the hassle that goes with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, giddyup said: Being married to a Thai doesn't give you any more perks than not, other than only having 400K in the bank instead of 800K. You still have to report every 90 days and you still have to get the appropriate visa. If working and married to a Thai the farang can jump straight to citizenship bypassing the need for PR first. Or so I heard, could well be complete waffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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