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Video: Hunt on for foreigner on big bike who hit three year old in buggy

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2 hours ago, Canceraid said:

Seriously...some people are not fit to be parents! Common thats not the way to cross a busy road with a baby. Same also, I find a lot of stupid foreigners pushing baby prams with their babies in areas like Jatujak Weekend Market!!!!!!!! The crowds, heat and risk of infectious air borne diseases alone should serve as a deterrent but not these buffoons! Not to say that they are also blocking other shoppers.

Yes, let's ban babies-they're always getting in the way and so obnoxious!

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6 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

Perhaps you could give some examples of when it would not be safe to stop for pedestrians? In the west (Canada) pedestrians always have the right of way. Hit one in a crosswalk and you have no argument.

I know you didn't ask me, but i'm burning for this subject, and in Thailand it's simply unsafe to stop for pedestrians when you have vehicles behind you. I have personally been involved in one situation where I stopped for pedestrians and the vehicles behind me collided because I stopped. 

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24 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

you are posting incorrect information, like I said in a post above - in the west (UK) yes vehicles are required to stop at a pedestrian crossing ONLY WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO, pedestrians have no right of way until all the vehicles have stopped to allow them to cross  - that is fact and is common sense, these people walked out onto the road (crossing or not) when the traffic was still moving, it is 100% their fault regardless if they were at a crossing - even In the west (UK) if there was a crossing they did not use it properly - the fact that it is Thailand is even adds a whole pile of extra dangers because Thais don't know how to use them and the laws are not enforced

 

24 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

Perhaps you could give some examples of when it would not be safe to stop for pedestrians? In the west (Canada) pedestrians always have the right of way. Hit one in a crosswalk and you have no argument.

tell you what, rather than posting on here I will give you a practical test

 

go to any country that has zebra crossings and just step out onto the road while the traffic is still moving, don't bother reporting back here what happened, you would be 100% to blame for your sudden demise, safe to stop can mean many things - skidding out of control while braking hard and causing a pileup behind you could be one of them - hell you might even mount the pavement and kill the pedestrian who was waiting to cross - it is all common sense

 

and yes drivers are legally obligated to stop safely once they have noticed a pedestrian waiting to cross - the pedestrian must wait until all traffic has stopped in both directions before stepping onto the road, most accidents at zebra crossings are caused primarily in two ways.

 

1. Pedestrians walking out onto the road before all traffic has stopped

2. Drivers trying to stop when they do not have the ability to do so safely based on speed - distance - conditions - vehicle type or any combination 

 

It really is just common sense

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35 minutes ago, hobz said:

Thank you shawn. 

In Thailand there seems to be similar laws.

It will be hilarious to see you argue how right you are from your casket. Be safe and practical in Thailand. Don't ever think drivers will follow the law!

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20 minutes ago, inzman said:

It will be hilarious to see you argue how right you are from your casket. Be safe and practical in Thailand. Don't ever think drivers will follow the law!

Dude, I never said that it's RIGHT .. i just said what's legal and not legal... 

 

Ofcourse it's the parents fault for being idiots and pushing their baby out into Thai traffic.... But LEGALLY it's probably the motorbikes fault .. at least from my current understanding of Thai Traffic Laws

 

*edit* I hope you will visit my casket and give me some flowers. Be a graceful winner :)

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7 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Read the story blamed the driver.

Saw the video blaming the parents.

Did you see the motorbike taking over the tuk tuk right on a pedestrian crossing? Is that smart? ... Well.. I guess even if it's dumb. It's never as dumb as pushing your baby out into Thai traffic.... They should give out pamphlets in the Airport for arrivals explaining to them that zebra crossings don't work as back in farangland here in Thailand and that the tallest Thai women are not really women :)

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56 minutes ago, hobz said:

Did you see the motorbike taking over the tuk tuk right on a pedestrian crossing? Is that smart? ... Well.. I guess even if it's dumb. It's never as dumb as pushing your baby out into Thai traffic.... They should give out pamphlets in the Airport for arrivals explaining to them that zebra crossings don't work as back in farangland here in Thailand and that the tallest Thai women are not really women :)

Local Thais suggest this is an inappropriate place to cross the road. (From OP)

 

i watched the video a couple of times.... admittedly I am using a small screen, but I can't make out pedestrian crossing markings on the road... to much glare from vehicle lights for my eyes

 

so... is it actually a pedestrian crossing?

 

i just read a travel guide tip.... it is absolutely the responsibility of the pedestrian to make sure it's safe to cross the road

 

i know this means little, as it's only advise for travelers, but it's certainly good advise, which we know to be true.... it's a pity these snippets of wisdom aren't more widely circulated.

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4 hours ago, Briggsy said:

If the kid is seriously injured as reported, the police will want the bike driver or his insurance to pay the medical costs which could be huge and the police will want money off somebody and the bike rider is the most likely, in fact only, candidate.

 

Following the video the parents pushed the pram out into traffic they should be paying the medical bills.

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5 hours ago, kbelyeu said:

Following the video the parents pushed the pram out into traffic they should be paying the medical bills.

Indeed, but maybe they, the parents, don't have the hundreds of thousands of baht it costs to treat a child in ICU (if reports are correct). Also the police probably just smell an opportunity for cash (from the bike rider).

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15 hours ago, Deli said:

Why do they push stroller where the traffic flows ?

the person pushing the stroller should be banked up for pushing it into heavy flowing traffic.  it did not look like any of the traffic was going that fast. agreed the rider should not have left, however maybe all parties thought the kid was all ok until after he left.

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5 hours ago, kbelyeu said:

Following the video the parents pushed the pram out into traffic they should be paying the medical bills.

and lose custody and banked up

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The roads here have to much "visual clutter"    zebra crossings need to be clearly visible from a long distance to give drivers time to anticipate pedestrians...if there are no markings and parked cars etc even on the crossing  how is there even a chance ?

I post this to every zebra crossing thread  they are dangerous dont use them.

 

 

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