7by7 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Basil B said: As I read it he has returned to the UK if he is a British Subject he can not be refused, maybe he does not want to return because he may have issues to face on his return. Pedant's corner. There are specific differences in British nationality law between a British citizen and a British subject. One being that British citizens have the automatic right to enter and live in the UK at anytime; they cannot be refused. British subjects do not usually have that right and, except in very rare circumstances, are subject to UK immigration control.. See Types of British nationality; 5. British subject for more. Having said that, it appears that Young is a British citizen; so, yes, it's not that he cannot return to the UK, but that he, for whatever reason or reasons, chooses not to. 1 hour ago, Basil B said: Also if they are his biological children why can they not come with him? See my post above; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravers Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Maybe he has a long history of violence and domestic abuse. Maybe he is well known by Thai and UK police who had had enough and this resulted in his blacklisting. If all true, we're all better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namoi Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Come on, there must be someone on here that can enlighten us to the real story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, catman20 said: get a sense of humor dh Even if meant to be humorous, the posts in question are still ignorant drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, NCC1701A said: wait till I get some popcorn... ok. go. Occasionally I see a post and laugh out loud. This post is making me LMAO. Perfect beginning post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 Ladies left him Cant go back to England Why? Good ridence mate u sound dogey Poor kids i feel sorry for not him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Never fails to amaze me that given the lack of facts, speculation abounds, and that a total character assasination follows, totally unfounded vitriolic remarks and accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 We all screw up and suffer consequences to our actions as we should. But there are exceptions to rules and in this case two kids need their dad and their moms have abandoned them so I hope the lawyers get him back into Thailand. I do have some empathy for him simply because I have lost my temper before, screwed up and regretted my behavior and will do it again in the future. Called being a human with faults. He seems like he loves his kids and a single parent raising kids is admirable and worth a second chance in my opinion. Let him back in please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Luckysilk said: Simple Mr. Young, get a job in the UK and get your kiddies to the UK, they will thank you later. Or relocate them to Malaysia where he is now residing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Or relocate them to Malaysia where he is now residing. they will thank you later. For what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Why did he not register the children with the British Embassy when bhorn half the problems would no longer apply apart from the major one, that he seems unable to return to the UK. one must then wonder how he is managing to stay in Thailand with no work and not old enough for retirement visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Sad, but it does appear that he is the wrong doer here. I'm guessing but I would thinking living in any other country might get similar results but in Thailand things can be uncertain anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 looks like Mr tough guy came second in that argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, the guest said: Very true. All of us are living on a knife-edge, and at any moment there could be a knock on the door, and you could be deported without any reason given. Why would you wish to make any permanent plans in Thailand? I don't believe for a minute I'm living on a knife edge awaiting deportation for "no reason." One example was a guy who, sounds like regularly, smashes his car up after drinking. The other example a guy diddling children.Those things should have you on a knife edge, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, Happyman58 said: 2 Ladies left him Cant go back to England Why? Good ridence mate u sound dogey Poor kids i feel sorry for not him There seems to be some misunderstanding by some posters re his circumstances. I read them as follows. 1. The man is presently residing in England after being deported (black-listed) from Thailand as an undesirable. 2. He mated with 2 different Thai women (who subsequently left him, who produced two children,who now, understandably claim to miss their father. 3. He has been barred from entering Thailand due to his past history of violence and aggression. Did I miss anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The primary consideration must be the interests and well-being of the kids: they miss and love their dad , have no mother in the picture. It is in their best interests for him to return, even accepting that be may well be a bit of a ratbag. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and let him back under strict conditions. These decisions about deportation should be taken seriously but also need to be flexible when the lives of the kids are adversely affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemercer Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I don't know about this specific case, but most western countries would put the welfare of the children first. What is best for the children? Will the children be better off with relatives? In Australia, any decision to deport someone, and leave their children in Australia, would be appealable and, I suspect, not win much public sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 minute ago, ratcatcher said: There seems to be some misunderstanding by some posters re his circumstances. I read them as follows. 1. The man is presently residing in England after being deported (black-listed) from Thailand as an undesirable. 2. He mated with 2 different Thai women who produced two children, who now, understandably claim to miss their father. 3. He has been barred from entering Thailand due to his past history of violence and aggression. Did I miss anything? No, but the violence relates to a dispute with neighbours about a noisy motorcycle and NYE party; probably alcohol related and, if a one-off, excusable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, stravers said: Maybe he has a long history of violence and domestic abuse. Maybe he is well known by Thai and UK police who had had enough and this resulted in his blacklisting. If all true, we're all better off without him. But this isn't about you or I is it? It is about the children. Should a child suffer for the actions of its parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ratcatcher said: There seems to be some misunderstanding by some posters re his circumstances. I read them as follows. 1. The man is presently residing in England after being deported (black-listed) from Thailand as an undesirable. 2. He mated with 2 different Thai women (who subsequently left him, who produced two children,who now, understandably claim to miss their father. 3. He has been barred from entering Thailand due to his past history of violence and aggression. Did I miss anything? Apparently he is residing in Malaysia, a few miles out on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Allen Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 There is little or no thought given to these draconian, "zero tolerance" edicts. Same stupidity as the "three strikes, you're out" laws in the USA. The idea of handling things on a case by case basis is just too difficult for the bureaucratic Thai mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Orac said: Without an adequate explanation of why he can't return to the UK the alarm bells should be ringing, particularly since he has a conviction for violence in Thailand. Maybe he doesn't like the cold weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said: Well, good court decision. Whom needs such a bloke. Creating only troubles. By the way his govt. in Britain exercise same law to migrants. So let him go home to his beloved England. And never come back. He will pay his bill for his rudeness. Well clearly his children need "such a bloke" BTW if you have a valid visa and commit a crime a migrant will not be deported and familes broken up. Unless there are extenuating circumstances whereby the individual staying might be a threat to national security. Thailand could learn a lot from the UK when it comes to human rights and the value of family. But your 'Thailand only' filter won't allow such a radical idea through. Shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Golden Triangle said: This is so easy to solve, go home to the UK, change your name by deed poll, get new passport and return to LoS, if a convicted Pedo can do it anyone can What about his face and fingerprints soon.Apparently the UK is a problem too.This bloke must have stashed a bit of money away over the last 2 decades.Hang in Malaysia and see the kids when ever you can and do the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said: Apparently he is residing in Malaysia, a few miles out on that one. Thanks for that, a good spot, a few miles indeed. I imagine he can see Thailand from his room while listening to the muezzin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 "In the case of Mr Young they said that he had started a sports bar business in Phuket." I think I have discovered the "root cause" of this man's troubles. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: There seems to be some misunderstanding by some posters re his circumstances. I read them as follows. 1. The man is presently residing in England after being deported (black-listed) from Thailand as an undesirable. 2. He mated with 2 different Thai women (who subsequently left him, who produced two children,who now, understandably claim to miss their father. 3. He has been barred from entering Thailand due to his past history of violence and aggression. Did I miss anything? Only the part that he has been reported to be living in Malaysia and has trouble living in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, louse1953 said: Only the part that he has been reported to be living in Malaysia and has trouble living in the UK. Yes, me bad, I got that info from Golden Triangle earlier.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 My friends wife was good at telling stories for sympathy. She was on tellie with the Salvo's saying how grateful she was for help with her 2 children while putting the money up her arm. U always take your kids no matter what? This guy wants sympathy but appears a thug? Don't know what else to say except if the kids are suffering hope their uncles and aunties and grandparents rally around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza73 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, duanebigsby said: I don't believe for a minute I'm living on a knife edge awaiting deportation for "no reason." One example was a guy who, sounds like regularly, smashes his car up after drinking. The other example a guy diddling children.Those things should have you on a knife edge, I haven't heard of anyone being deported from Thailand for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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