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What exactly happens to farangs who are caught working without permit?


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30 days - inquire wp in progress

 

60 days - letter informing that you have not rec'd wp and cannot work past 90 days

 

91 days - leave

 

Work permits are a hassle, but can be cranked out in a few hours. Trip to MoL and another to pu the WP. The longest its ever taken for me is two months+. The other three in well less than two months. If they are not doing your WP it's because they have no plan to do so. Leave.

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3 hours ago, sanemax said:

Its a grey area becuase there doesn't seem to be any specific laws on the subject .

If you were a stockbroker in the UK , could you come to Thailand for a year and get an office and trade 8 hours a day  , using a UK bank account for transactions ?

   If you were a stockbroker in the UK , could you make one single trade in Thailand , if you were on a two week holiday ?

   If  UK landlord had 100 properties in the UK , could he stay in Thailand and run his business from Thailand ?

  

There is no "grey area". The law is crystal clear that you cannot carry out any occupation or be employed without permission.

Section 37 : An alien having received a temporary entry permit into the Kingdom must comply with the following :

1. Shall not engage in the occupation or temporary or employment unless authorized by the Director General. or competent official deputized by the Director General . If , in any case , there is a law concerning alien employment provided hereafter , the granting of work privileges must comply with the law concerned.

 

It is the enforcement of the law, or lack of, that causes confusion. Most foreigners working remotely would almost certainly not be prosecuted, especially if in the country on holiday as a tourist. But working at your job/business (occupation) is illegal without permission.

 

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Just now, elviajero said:

There is no "grey area". The law is crystal clear that you cannot carry out any occupation or be employed without permission.

Section 37 : An alien having received a temporary entry permit into the Kingdom must comply with the following :

1. Shall not engage in the occupation or temporary or employment unless authorized by the Director General. or competent official deputized by the Director General . If , in any case , there is a law concerning alien employment provided hereafter , the granting of work privileges must comply with the law concerned.

 

It is the enforcement of the law, or lack of, that causes confusion. Most foreigners working remotely would almost certainly not be prosecuted, especially if in the country on holiday as a tourist. But working at your job/business (occupation) is illegal without permission.

 

Amen to that !

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23 minutes ago, elviajero said:

There is no "grey area". The law is crystal clear that you cannot carry out any occupation or be employed without permission.

Section 37 : An alien having received a temporary entry permit into the Kingdom must comply with the following :

1. Shall not engage in the occupation or temporary or employment unless authorized by the Director General. or competent official deputized by the Director General . If , in any case , there is a law concerning alien employment provided hereafter , the granting of work privileges must comply with the law concerned.

 

It is the enforcement of the law, or lack of, that causes confusion. Most foreigners working remotely would almost certainly not be prosecuted, especially if in the country on holiday as a tourist. But working at your job/business (occupation) is illegal without permission.

 

I was talking about people who are not employed by anyone in Thailand and whom carry out work online .

  Say if I were to go online to a UK website whilst in Thailand  and deal in shares on the stockmarket for clients in the UK and all financial transactions are done by UK banks and I withdrew profits from a UK bank account in Thailand .

   Would that be considered to be working in Thailand ?

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1 hour ago, sanemax said:

I was talking about people who are not employed by anyone in Thailand and whom carry out work online .

  Say if I were to go online to a UK website whilst in Thailand  and deal in shares on the stockmarket for clients in the UK and all financial transactions are done by UK banks and I withdrew profits from a UK bank account in Thailand .

   Would that be considered to be working in Thailand ?

Yes. It is your physical location that dictates where you are working.

 

That is clearly an ‘occupation’ and you, therefore, need permission, which you can’t get.

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8 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Yes. It is your physical location that dictates where you are working.

 

That is clearly an ‘occupation’ and you, therefore, need permission, which you can’t get.

What about a landlord with one property in his home Country that he rents out , would be legally be able to converse with his tenants in regard to carrying out maintenance tasks at the property , if hes staying in Thailand? 

  His job is a landlord and he is carrying out his job by arranging the upkeep of his property

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4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

What about a landlord with one property in his home Country that he rents out , would be legally be able to converse with his tenants in regard to carrying out maintenance tasks at the property , if hes staying in Thailand? 

  His job is a landlord and he is carrying out his job by arranging the upkeep of his property

I think that is called being a custodian of your assets.

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6 hours ago, sanemax said:
6 hours ago, elviajero said:

Yes. It is your physical location that dictates where you are working.

 

That is clearly an ‘occupation’ and you, therefore, need permission, which you can’t get.

What about a landlord with one property in his home Country that he rents out , would be legally be able to converse with his tenants in regard to carrying out maintenance tasks at the property , if hes staying in Thailand? 

  His job is a landlord and he is carrying out his job by arranging the upkeep of his property

It doesn't matter what the business is. If you are operating a business from within Thailand you need permission.

 

I don't believe for one second that the authorities would want to stop the landlord you describe, or care that he's operating his business from Thailand; but according to the law it would be illegal.

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On 3/25/2017 at 1:24 AM, A1Str8 said:

Depends on the immigration officer who finds out. They have no interest in enforcing the law. 

It's all about the money. So always have it. But since people who have a job don't have money otherwise they wouldn't work, don't do it. 

Both sides are crooks... so all is fair. Why complain?

Both are looking for easy money - poor farangs come to undeveloped countries and scrounge, in return the inhabitants there scrounge on them.

Any reason to complain?

 

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Can anyone come to Farangland on a tourist visa and work legally?

These are crooks, who creep into countries and create unnecessary problems for all. Shameless crooks!

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