Today is D-Day as police get tough on seatbelts and sitting in the back of pick-ups

[hgma]

remember hands-free calling?

2000 bath fine for any-one caught using a phone during driving.

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Great.

on paper!

[3NUMBAS]

How about elephants in the back of trucks?

[JAG]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

https://www.google.com/patents/US20140159409

 

I wonder if you have one these and registered at the DLT as an alteration to the rear of the pick up with seats and seat belts what could they do.

The same as they would if you didn't register it.

 

Ignore it until they need a salary top up, then it's on with the surgical mask and dark glasses and demand cash.....

[balo]

This is the law in other civilized countries so why not Thailand ?

[Redline]

6 hours ago, davehowden said:

Thais not allowed to sit in the back of a pick-up truck, you might as well try and stop my Thai Mother-in-Law from picking her nose!

In public

[Beats56]

So no riding in back of a pickup truck is a no no.now and it is not allowed in my country. And why are seat belts not in the back seats is a mystery to me.

Easy enough to have them installed.

I had a old 63 pickup back home with no seat belts and it wasn't a problem if cops stopped me with very strict seat belt laws. Seat belts do save lives and it will be a mater of time before they are accepted. I now feel naked with out bucklen up because it is ingrained in me. About time they in have this law.

 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Gulfsailor said:

Alterations like a carry boy in the picture are only legal when registered at DLT. That  means the car type will be changed from pickup (in case of single or extra cab) to passenger car and you'll get a different color license plate. You'll also have to pay the extra tax. The cost will not be worth it. For a double cab you can register the carry boy easier. In either case you cannot install seats in it. 

Just another hit on not so well off Thais with large families who can't afford MU7's.

[TPI]

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Its a start in the right direction, but before you go on suggesting that they hit farmers and labourers and the hike hard, mate, have you ever lived in the bush, these people are doing it hard enough and your suggestion to hit them even harder goes to show your lack of empathy.

 

Education is the key, as the report said, initially 100 baht fine so as to get the message out there, these people have limited incomes I see their struggle daily, they will conform, everything takes time, but for your information, most don't own cars where I come from, hence the reason most are in the back of pick up trucks, as for the labourers, well hit the source between the eyes, i.e. the driver because he is getting paid for the shuttle isn't he, the labourer just wants to make a quid and the only way he is going to make that is to be at the pick up point.

 

I applaud the Thai government for finally taking the stance and trying to bring their people in line with most of the rest of the world, just hope their force keeps it going, because I know one thing, after Songkran they will want to take a break because they will have been very very busy, I hope spreading the word and saving lives.

Well, in Oz Aboriginals are allowed to ride in the back of pickups because there's no other way for them to travel any distance!  what bizarre mental gymnastics brought about this idea? Thailand is a 3rd world country tring like crazy tobe a 2nd world country.....put a transport infrastructure that makes PU riding redundent and no problems!!

[watso63]

Please refrain from sanitising Thailand into a clone of a nanny state. Glad I live out in the sticks where I'll probably forget about this nonsense by the morning. I'll bet anyone a million baht that the next wedding, funeral or young lad becoming a monk festival I attend will have pick-up trucks loaded with criminally insane old ladies flagrantly flouting the law while the local police flagrantly ignore yet another dictat from on high.

[ToS2014]

How do all the school children buckle up in all their various modes?

[Bantex]

Simply fit seat belts in the back of your pickup.

 

Passengers having to wear seat belts, does this only apply to front seat passenger or to those in back seats as well?

 

[Beats56]

Back in home country my mother in law was in the back seat. I told her to put the seat belt on or the car is going nowhere. I told her I don't want her flying forward and breaking someones neck. Being old school she grundy put it on. Hard to break old habits that have  done the same thing for years. 

Get a couple of tickets and they soon learn.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Henryford said:

How about enforcing the helmet law first. At least a third of thai motorcyclists don't wear helmets.

 

I live in rural Khampaeng Phet and when I go to the city I usually do a helmet count to break the boredom. The average is about 47% wear helmets against 53% that don't. Nearer the city more people wear helmets.

[spidermike007]

As I said before, this is another one of those Dangerfield, Carlin type posts. If it was delivered well, it could bring on some serious belly laughs. Imagine a Thai policeman citing someone for not wearing a seatbelt? What percentage of Thais wear seatbelt? On the highway, maybe 30%? Off the highway? Maybe 6%? Where would they start? That is if they were serious to begin with. When I am in a minivan, people look at me like I am a Martian when I put my seatbelt on. Do I care? Of course not. Means nothing. 

 

If there is one thing you can always count on here, it is that the police are never serious about anything that has anything to do with traffic safety. If they do, it will surprise and please millions of people. Oh my God! The cops care! What a concept. 

[dageurreotype]

8 hours ago, billy54 said:

I don't want to discuss the rights or wrongs of this , opinions' we all have them , but is this the thin end of the nanny state wedge , 

No. It's not. A friend of mine would still be alive today if he hadn't been too lazy to buckle up. And enough with the bloody 'nanny state'. Humans mistake structure for oppression, and humans (if you hadn't noticed by now) need structure.

[wvavin]

Needless to say this rule only applies to Japanese car owners.

[Cheops]

3 hours ago, kentrot said:

This is a lot of fuss about the road deaths in 4 wheel vehicles (13% ) when the more serious culprit and road killer is the motorcycle  ( 73% ) . And yet I still see motorbike riders in huge numbers with no helmets. Yesterday while I waited for my wife at the market in Jomtien, 3 out of 4 riders had no helmets. Why isn't THAT rule being enforced. SIX Times more deaths on motorcycles and yet we waffle over the issue of seat belts. Indeed all lives matter. All I am saying is lets start with the obvious.

 

For this review we will give you the most recent data as offered by the WHO (World Health Organization).

 

They tried to enforce the helmets, but people ignore it, so now they will try the seat belts.

 

They also don't allow drivers to use their phones while driving. Well, just take a look on the roads and you know nobody cares. 

 

I applaud the Thai government for trying, but a 100 baht fine will not do it. Make it 1000 in the first month with campaigns on TV and FB. Then raise the fines to 5k baht etc.

 

They should educate the people in such way that the answer on the question 'why they need to wear a seat belt?' is not: because otherwise the police will give you a fine!!!

 

They should do the same for all other: no helmet, drunk driving etc. Educate and raise the fines significantly! 

 

Well, at least there is a start :)

[bdenner]

27 minutes ago, Bantex said:

Simply fit seat belts in the back of your pickup.

 

Passengers having to wear seat belts, does this only apply to front seat passenger or to those in back seats as well?

 

How do you suggest they/we do that? As 99% of extended cab pickups do not have approved rear seat belt securing points you think I just drill a couple of strategically located holes and bolt some sort of generic belt in. Yep that'll work in your dreams - not mine!

[JAG]

47 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

I live in rural Khampaeng Phet and when I go to the city I usually do a helmet count to break the boredom. The average is about 47% wear helmets against 53% that don't. Nearer the city more people wear helmets.

I'll run with that. In the countryside about 25%. In the city about 50%.

[spiroinusa1]

This is ripe for dissension. You can only push the people so far. "Father Knows Best" was an American TV show not a national anthem to the Prime Minister. It is a tough issue but to many people have no  other way to travel. Speeding causes most accidents in Thailand. That is what they should go after. 

[the guest]

It seems in Thailand, the party is definitely over.

[Chicken George]

lunacy! The idea is fine but it needs to be brought in over say ten years. Impossible for people to adapt over night.

[Miaow]

 

Seen somewhere today in the kingdom....

 

 

[Miaow]

Funny how westerners always mention the lack of democracy ( the voice of we, the people) in Thailand, however, a whopping 73% of Thai people seem to be against  new policies...Go figure...

[toofarnorth]

I wonder if folk did start to buckle up it would be a lot like the crash hats on or off syndrome . We have all seen it folk on scooters riding towards a check point put a lid on , after going past ..hat comes off.  I can see it now ; seat belt on , after passing through a check point seat belt is undone.

[brain150]

4 hours ago, malibukid said:

i am all for the Nanny State and laws that protect stupid people, it is our moral obligation to help those who do not possess common sense. seat belts save lives, motorcycle helmets save lives.  laws against drunk drivers save lives. vehicle safety inspections save lives. 

So, you don't want to be free because you can not see others to be free.

You cannot be responsible because you will not grant it to others.

 

You want to be a slave to keep your moral high-ground and at the same time you have to enslave yourself.

 

You are just stupidly repeating Government Propaganda without ever thinking about it.

Who gave you or others like you the authority to rise above others by telling them what's good for them ?

 

You have to expect that there are people that think the same about you ... and they will use the same argument you use against you !!!

Ba careful what you wish for.

[bazza73]

95% of Northern Thailand will be under arrest if this actually happens.

 

I am wondering how the police will be able to detect seat belt compliance in the deep tint vehicles.

[Happyman58]

4 hours ago, stog said:

Just been to my local town in Issan, the Police have not yet received the message. They were escorting three pick ups full of young monks around town while three of them also sat in the back of their own truck.

 

Also numerous trucks were flying around on the rural roads and highways with people in the back.

 

Enforcement may happen nearer Songkran kick off but only to top up the local boys drinking funds!

Just not going to happen in the boonies.

oh they would they of dont have any intention of carrying them out lol

[brain150]

3 hours ago, balo said:

This is the law in other civilized countries so why not Thailand ?

Because the Thais don't want to have it ?

And because it's a law against the free will of the people where safety is not the concern but social security costs !

It's also a stupid law because it doesn't address the real problem and as such it's useless.

 

And just because other countries do it does not mean it's good.

Your so-called "civilized" world is the same world that is constantly going to war and killing people to bring peace ???

[brain150]

2 hours ago, dageurreotype said:

No. It's not. A friend of mine would still be alive today if he hadn't been too lazy to buckle up. And enough with the bloody 'nanny state'. Humans mistake structure for oppression, and humans (if you hadn't noticed by now) need structure.

The brainwashing works really well, does it ... 

 

Your friend made a choice and it was his choice ... not yours !