jayci Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Heads up, be sure that who ever you are staying with in Thailand does the TM30 form and has you registered at the address within 24hrs of arrival.I got stung yesterday while applying for a visa extension because the TM30 form wasn't filed within the first 24hrs of arrival.Had to pay a fine 500baht. No doubt pocketed, because there was no receipt.I've had to register at a house before, so it was something new for me. Sent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 The owner gets fined..800bht...At their home, 4000bht...Receipt given.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Why are you being fined (scammed) for something the 'house owner' hasn't done?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 It would also be useful with any of these reports if OPs would say which office they've been to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted April 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2017 Been in my house 9 years now, have a yellow book...Couple of years back did an extension, immigration said to Mrs.Trans you have not told us Trans lives at your house, she said we went through stuff to get him yellow residence book, they said YOU never told us....800bht... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, DILLIGAD said: Why are you being fined (scammed) for something the 'house owner' hasn't done? TM30 is not to be made by the "house owner" but by the "house master", so if your owner doesn't do it for you, you have to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Why are you being fined (scammed) for something the 'house owner' hasn't done?Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkBecause the house owner is familySent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 TM30 is not to be made by the "house owner" but by the "house master", so if your owner doesn't do it for you, you have to do it. I agree with your practical solution but looking into the actual law states 3 descriptions and In my mind (yes,dangerous hey!) they all imply that it should be a controller/owner of the house so therefor not usually a farang. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 It would also be useful with any of these reports if OPs would say which office they've been to. Buriram officeSent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 hour ago, DILLIGAD said: I agree with your practical solution but looking into the actual law states 3 descriptions and In my mind (yes,dangerous hey!) they all imply that it should be a controller/owner of the house so therefor not usually a farang. Section 4 of the immigration act states this. Quote "House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house , whether in the capacity of owner , tenant , or in any other capacity whatsoever , in accordance with the law on people act. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhonKaenKowboy Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 But there are reports of foreign condo owners not being able to sign as housemaster for their Tennants...that would indicate they are working as a property manager. I got stung for 1600 as owner occupant of condo in CM...Yellow Book was only proof that I had been there without tm30.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 9 hours ago, DILLIGAD said: I agree with your practical solution but looking into the actual law states 3 descriptions and In my mind (yes,dangerous hey!) they all imply that it should be a controller/owner of the house so therefor not usually a farang. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Section 38 of the Immigration Act says that the house-master, possessor or owner must make the notification but the choice is, in fact, only between two persons, the tenant or the owner, because with a rented residence the tenant is the possessor and therefore the house-master as defined in Section 4 of the Immigration Act. No wonder immigration officials are confused, given this unprofessional and nonsensical wording of paragraph 1 of Section 38. Another element adding to the confusion is probably the fact that with a rented residence the owner is not the house-master under the terms of the Immigration Act, because he has handed possession over to the tenant, but he remains of course listed as house-master in his house registration book under the terms of the Civil Registration Act ( in English also known as the Law on People Act) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhonKaenKowboy Posted April 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2017 You can split legal hairs all year on the translations and wording, but the reality is to do it the way the local Immigration Office wants it or not get your extension...your local agent will tell you the same thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 2 hours ago, KhonKaenKowboy said: You can split legal hairs all year on the translations and wording, but the reality is to do it the way the local Immigration Office wants it or not get your extension...your local agent will tell you the same thing. I agree with your observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Arrived October BKK. Fly to CNX. 90 day report via Thai post. In lounge BKK now. Just cleared Immigration. No TM30 required. No fine. No nothing. BOBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 38 minutes ago, canthai55 said: Arrived October BKK. Fly to CNX. 90 day report via Thai post. In lounge BKK now. Just cleared Immigration. No TM30 required. No fine. No nothing. BOBS Immigration officials at airports and other border posts are not concerned about the TM.30 form, neither on departure nor on arrival. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Immigration officials at airports and other border posts are not concerned about the TM.30 form, neither on departure nor on arrival.So why do it ? Immigration does not seem to require it. Did 2 90 day reports. Never asked for it. I repeat - BOBS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 So why do it ? Immigration does not seem to require it. Did 2 90 day reports. Never asked for it. I repeat - BOBS Members' posts in this forum indicate that some immigration offices require the notification of arrival of foreigners at a private residence on some occasions. You will find some recent topics on this subject, if you are interested.Sent from my Nexus 5X using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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