rooster59 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Video: "Negligent" foreign tourist on big bike slams into Thais Image: Sanook Dash cam footage has been posted on Facebook that shows a foreign tourist on a big bike without a helmet smashing into Thais on a motorcycle on the Koh Samui ring road.The footage reveals that the foreigner undercuts the car with the dash cam then swerves out from behind a pick-up. Sanook said that he then collided with two Thais who were waiting to turn right.Officer Parinya Raksakaew of Bo Phut police said that the foreigner had driven negligently and was also in the wrong for not wearing a helmet.Three people were left injured on the roadway after the accident in the Lamai area of the holiday island. Sanook said it was lucky that the injured were not run over by other cars.Police urged all rental shops on the island to only rent bikes to people with licenses and to insist on helmet wearing.The footage was on a Thai page entitled "Nai Sai Sing Team". Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-04-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Yup bad driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 He's just trying to fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 What a <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I think it has all been said already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Probably doesnt even have a bike licence as you dont need one to hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can samui Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 See this all too regularly.Undertaking drives me mental.Hope the folks on the scooter are ok.....dont really give a toss for the idiot on the big bike.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Nice to see the folks stopping to render aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 That sort of stupidity on the roads happens everyday here, the nationality is irrelevant. The focus should not be on the nationality, whether Thai of foreign, but how such accidents can be best avoided in the future. Unfortunately it will probably just end up in the usual blame game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Right up the arse of the car. Pulls out to overtake around a corner at speed. Note yellow line. No overtaking. See it all the time. Really bad. No bikesmanship at all just point an go . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 What a total a$$h0!e... This is exceptionally careless and dangerous riding... It angers me that people can ride (or drive) like this with such disregard for the safety of others placing them in danger.... I hope all parties were not seriously injured, I hope the rider learned a valuable life lesson and never rides like this again... I also hope the video can be used as education for others, its an excellent example of how poor, selfish and inexperienced riding can lead to significant injury in the blink of an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: police said that the foreigner had driven negligently and was also in the wrong for not wearing a helmet. Were the two Thais on the scooter wearing helmets? It also looks like they were trying to make a right turn over a solid yellow line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Why most of the reporting always referring to race and nationality? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: Police urged all rental shops on the island to only rent bikes to people with licenses and to insist on helmet wearing. Yes, urging will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Happy Grumpy said: Were the two Thais on the scooter wearing helmets? It also looks like they were trying to make a right turn over a solid yellow line. "It also looks like they were trying to make a right turn over a solid yellow line." Yes sure, but not being an excuse for the farang himself overtaking on this same solid yellow line. On the other hand in Samui very few drivers respect the solid yellow lines that is why most of the time I do not overtake, being with my motorbike or my car . So my answer could have been : A yellow what? In Samui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 A couple of Thai bashing troll posts removed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yellow lines are all over Samui but I often have little choice but to cross them in order to overtake Sunday drivers who pull out without looking & then drive far slower than the conditions allow while hogging both lanes. Back to this clip; I have almost identical dashcam footage showing a very near miss a couple of years ago where the clown in my lane missed a speeding bike in the other direction by a whisker..... I capture the ol' blind bend routine every day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2talk Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 See this all too regularly.Undertaking drives me mental.Hope the folks on the scooter are ok.....dont really give a toss for the idiot on the big bike.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa ConnectI would say the undertaking is not a problem. The problem is that this guy thinks he can overtake without looking ahead, and then you can come along and started criticizing him for making an early him and event which bore no relation. I rode a much bigger and faster bike, I'll say I overtake and undertake a lot, squeeze through gaps and I drive fast, and I never did this in 12 years riding here or 16 in England before!This person was simply very stupid. It is not about what he did, it is about the way that he did it. Sent from my nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I hope this pencil pointing doesn't replace the fingers. Totally annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 He would have come off sooner, if he had gone into the sand at the side of the road when he was undertaking. These 'big bikes' are the work of the devil. Maybe they can be ridden in Germany with some safety, but they are not for Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Jeremy50 said: These 'big bikes' are the work of the devil. The bikes are fine, it is the inexperienced eejits riding them. The rider in the video looks like he learned to ride playing "Need for Speed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 rule of thumb when driving/riding, make sure you can clearly see the area of road you are about to enter and that it isn't already occupied or about to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said: Were the two Thais on the scooter wearing helmets? It also looks like they were trying to make a right turn over a solid yellow line. They were stopped opposite a family mart as there is a soi that goes down the side off the shop. Last week I seen a car stopped in same place waiting to turn right and a Thai on a bike came screaming round the corner and almost slammed into the back off the static car. He stopped about 6 inches from the back off the car. Bad area made worse by the family mart now being there also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 It is not so clear to me as it seems for others. To me it appears the big bike rider did not cross the yellow line. The truck he was following squeezes over to the left because of the oncoming scooter making a right was on his side of the road. The big bike rider seeing the truck squeeze over leaving a meter of "open" road to the right of him attempted to pass but the scooter driver was already in the space waiting to make a right turn. Not 100% sure but that is what it looks like to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 ^ All of secondary importance. Primary importance when concluding fault is that one of them was a foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Happy Grumpy said: ^ All of secondary importance. Primary importance when concluding fault is that one of them was a foreigner. Are you actually sat on a bar-stool right now as you wrote that?... or did you just hear it from someone while in a beer bar ?.... This 'bar-stool' myth is perpetually peddled by the inexperienced... live here for a while and you will soon see that we are treated with exactly the same indifference Thai's treat each other... The foreigner is not automatically deemed at fault... but an inexperienced and naive foreigner may be lead to believe so... In the majority of cases the path of least resistance is taken... i.e. the foreigner is paranoid and accepts blame too easily when the BiB allocate blame much in the same way they do when dealing with a Thai on Thai event... that is: blame is generally proportioned to whomever appears more readily able to afford the damages... Until of course one party or the other decides to standup for themselves or be stubborn and refuse to accept blame, in which case the BiB usually deal with the facts and proportion blame or simply allocate a compromising 50:50.... Of course, there are a number of stories otherwise, however, in aggregate we are dealt with fairly or as fairly as any other member of society (Thai) is dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 8 hours ago, rooster59 said: Police urged all rental shops on the island to only rent bikes to people with licenses and to insist on helmet wearing. Terrible accident true but can people see the irony in the above statement. To insist on wearing a helmet gee hop on the back of the bike behind him and watch him at all times. Mr. Policeman person come to Chiang Mai you would clean up enough in one day on helmet infractions in one day to retire. Unfortunately it would take a little work on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jack Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Clearly bad driving. Undertaking (and at speed) then overtaking without due care. But don't be quite so quick to judge. Look closely, he never actually crosses the line, it's the "victim" vehicle that is stopped straddling it and actually sticking its nose into oncoming traffic, and on an unsighted bend. Plus it's a solid line and so should never be crossed at all (not that that matters in this country both with driving style and poor road design). And if they're going to talk about helmets they should mention that the "victims" weren't wearing any either. Like every case here in the real world blame can be assigned in some proportion on both sides. In this case it's a lot more on the big bike though. Personally I care more about why everyone has to be so blythely racist. It doesn't matter in the slightest that the rider was Caucasian (I despise that word Fa**ng) and it shouldn't either to the racist posters in this forum nor to the racist commentator in the video pointing out the "Fa**ng" (an object not a person [Thai language]) with his pencil as if his ethnicity is a salient point in the investigation, before pointing out himself casually walking over for a closer look at the gore (he even explains he's going in for a closer look). These accidents happen everyday all across this country. Reducing them is a big challenge for the Kingdom and one that will require action on many fronts, but falling back on racial stereotypes is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 hours ago, dinsdale said: Right up the arse of the car. Pulls out to overtake around a corner at speed. Note yellow line. No overtaking. See it all the time. Really bad. No bikesmanship at all just point an go . I agree that the accident is 100% the fault of the motorcycle driver. I'm not sure about the yellow line, though. Does it really mean "no overtaking", or does it mean "no passing over the line"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Negligent was putting very politely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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