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Why is it more expensive to fly from Bangkok to the UK ?

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1 hour ago, Mad mick said:

No its thailand they do the same to fly to Australia cost at least $200 + , more from here welcome to amazing thailand u r a farang u pay more .

16 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

Just to hijack this one why do Australians pay 2200 dollars return to London on the non stop flight

but from London to Australia (Perth) only cost 1750  

 "Welcome to amazing Oz u r a local u pay more."   :sorry:

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If you are taking your wife / GF on a UK visitor visa you have no choice but a return ticket or UK immigration will probably block entry. I've just booked flights back to the UK and have been screwed by KLM for converting the price into GBP (£58 'conversion charge) as their card system wasn't working last night. Lesson - pay in THB next time via PayPal! I chose KLM as the price was reasonable flying to my local airport (Route is Chiang Mai > Bangkok > Amsterdam > Bristol). I'm currently challenging the 'Conversion charge'.

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There's a number of reasons...

 

1.  Most UK-TL-UK bookings tend to normally be 1 or 2 month durations (often non refundable, or at a cost). Flexible bookings are usually more.

TL-UK-TL are usually longer.  3-6 months for Thais on visa,  with no limited duration tickets available.   Usually only fully flexible 12 tickets are available.   

 

2.  UK-UK are mostly economy tourists - lots of competition, and competitive pricing accordingly.

TL-TL  are either hi-so tourists (as most Thais cant afford to travel), or expats (who are considered wealthy), and either group are gouged accordingly.  Airlines charge what the market will stand.

 

3.  TL-TL are usually booked in advance, especially for Thais travelling as they need often need sufficient time to arrange visa's etc.,  Best rates can usually be made in the last 2 weeks before flying (providing it is generally quiet), but don't try this at busy times (Xmas or UK summer school holidays) or it can be extra expensive if leaving late (in which case its better to book around 6 months beforehand).  Be prepared to be flexible on flight times and layovers.  If your dates are flexible it's worth checking the UK-UK prices leaving on or around the date of your proposed return flight, to find the cheapest day in your window.

 

4.  If you book via the airlines own website you're charged in local currency of departure, with pretty excessive currency exchange rates.  Doubley worse if you want to pay for a TL-TL flight in GBP.

 

BUT, there are a few comparison websites  that will bill you in GBP for either origin although the TL-TL will still be at least 20-30% more than a similar date UK-UK.... but much better than the typical 2x. 

I once got a TL-TL return over 2 weeks,  4 days before flying (for a funeral),  almost 200GBP cheaper than the airline website quoted me.  I used momondo.com, and was flying with Qatar. 

 

5.  Finally, if you want regional airports in the UK, you're normally better flying to LHR, and then a separate local fight.  Disadvantage is you can't check your luggage right through, and you need to leave a longer safety margin between flights because if the first flight is late and you miss the connection you wont be allowed to simply get the next one.. You'll need a new booking which will be expensive at short notice.  Less chance of flights being late nowadays, but best if you can arrange a 1 or 2 stay with friends or family in London.

 

edit..  momondo current deal TL-UK-TL departing 21 May for 2 weeks is 427GBP on Vietnam Airways.. Not particularly good layovers in HCMC though.... but gives an example of how competitive the prices CAN be... 611 GBP direct on BA.

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43 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Not quite right Simon. Take a flight from Perth to Auckland where they will use a lot less fuel than the return flight.

But back to the subject    politics

Is that because it's shorter! :biggrin:

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The comparison is made very easily using the matrix site...a very useful tool for searching out the best fares, from/to anywhere.

Care to share please !

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17 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

Just to hijack this one why do Australians pay 2200 dollars return to London on the non stop flight

but from London to Australia (Perth) only cost 1750  

 

Same reason as in the case reported by the OP mate. All airlines charge based on market prices in any particular market, the class of ticket you are buying and the segments you will be flying, simplistically. That gives different figures over the same route but in different directions.

 

That's why they won't let you buy the ticket in a different country i.e. buy in UK whilst you're physically in BKK.

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1 hour ago, eddysmit said:

If you do a return trip from BKK to London on BA they will charge you in  thb, I have attempted all different ways to pay in sterling, but, if I try making out I'm booking from the UK the page reverts to the Thailand one, their main office is the UK, the reason being I take it is because the trip begins this end, even tried splitting the trip, the cost of the tickets doubled.

Exact my experience.

And it depends on the departure airport.

I just played with a German low cost carrier (Eurowings).

I tried oneway BKK - Germany -> THB

I tried oneway Germany - BKK -> EUR (without any tricks on the PC)

 

Also interesting for this LCC:

it allows one-way without the ridiculous penalty as is usual with normal airlines.

 

The two one-ways combined and using today's exchange rate comes very close to the return flight charged in THB.

Also here both legs are almost equal in price.

(as precise you can get with the currency rate)

 

And a return flight from Germany to BKK is also very close to the other direction.

(it's a return flight in June for approx. 23500 Baht)

 

To me this proofs quite a lot.

No additional cost, tax, strange currency, fuel price, headwind ... reasons.

Just purely grabbing as much as they can.

Time for more LCCs to get prices moving south.

 

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1 minute ago, Prbkk said:

But this is more for the mainstream carriers as the LCCs sometimes don't show up here. Nevertheless, it's a good tool once you learn how to use it effectively, IMHO

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BTW, the Loyalty Lobby blog site had a very good business class fare as the 'fare of the day' a couple of days back: $1560 USD Amsterdam-London- Bangkok rtn with many dates open until early Dececember, many routings/airlines possible ( BA, CX, RJ, others). Looks like a good fare to me even if one had to get a cheap ticket to AMS to start the journey.

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35 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Exact my experience.

And it depends on the departure airport.

I just played with a German low cost carrier (Eurowings).

I tried oneway BKK - Germany -> THB

I tried oneway Germany - BKK -> EUR (without any tricks on the PC)

 

Also interesting for this LCC:

it allows one-way without the ridiculous penalty as is usual with normal airlines.

 

The two one-ways combined and using today's exchange rate comes very close to the return flight charged in THB.

Also here both legs are almost equal in price.

(as precise you can get with the currency rate)

 

And a return flight from Germany to BKK is also very close to the other direction.

(it's a return flight in June for approx. 23500 Baht)

 

To me this proofs quite a lot.

No additional cost, tax, strange currency, fuel price, headwind ... reasons.

Just purely grabbing as much as they can.

Time for more LCCs to get prices moving south.

 

To add another dimension to this ,my friend works for BA and I can book hotline tickets through him (or he just gives me his staff log in details and do it myself). Have just booked a return trip to uk for July and it bills me in baht because it starts in Bangkok even though I'm on his uk staff website. 26,000 so a saving on the £645 via skyskanner 

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Just for entertainment:

one-way flight on BA from BKK to LHR in June(Tue, 13), cheapest:

 

24120 THB :shock1:

 

So much on one-way with traditional carriers.

As written, LCC to Germany is below 12000.

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But this is more for the mainstream carriers as the LCCs sometimes don't show up here. Nevertheless, it's a good tool once you learn how to use it effectively, IMHO

Thank you sir, I just did a quick test run and it works well, as you say the LCC's don't show up .

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11 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Just for entertainment:

one-way flight on BA from BKK to LHR in June(Tue, 13), cheapest:

 

24120 THB :shock1:

 

So much on one-way with traditional carriers.

As written, LCC to Germany is below 12000.

Thurs 11th  May,o/w Malaysia is 11250B, although the 0500 departure from BKK would count me out.

 

June gets higher.

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