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Phuket hospital hits back over UK claims they put money first after tourist's motorbike accident

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19 hours ago, tonray said:

When I was responsible for care of my elderly mom, at each hospital admission after providing insurance info, I had to sign a statement saying I would cover anything over and above insurance or they would  not admit her, they would provide emergency care but no admission unless I signed. This was in the US. If hospitals treated everyone for free, there would be no hospitals to treat anyone. Jake was not a taxpayer in Thailand so why would Mum expect free treatment ?

 

 

In fact at Samitivej Hospital in BKK, they will actually come into your room to settle payment if you cannot make it to the billing desk...555

 

In 1999 the Bangkok-Pattaya Hospital refused to admit me unless I put up a deposit, that while I was insured.

After phoning my Health Insurer, who did pay a deposit immediately, I got admitted.

While there I got visited every day with a request for more money at which I answered that I was insured and to contact my insurer.

After treatment was finished the hospital refused me to leave my room until full payment was made.

Thanks to the cell phone could I call my insurer who paid the bill and I could leave.

Suckers! :shock1: :w00t::1zgarz5:

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17 hours ago, HooHaa said:

 

i believe he was actually quite lucky the first time - many travel insurance policies quite clearly state that motorcycle s are out.

 

im surprised they paid anything at all.

 

 

Perhaps they accepted and allowed the first claim out of the goodness of their heart, or maybe his insurance did include cover for certain motorcycle usage

Hmmmm and he wondered  55555555

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i came here 17 years ago and im foolish enough to admit i never had insurance for years. i have insurance now , only time will tell if the insurance is any good and will pay out.

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20 hours ago, KittenKong said:

 

To my mind even sitting on a stationary motorbike in Thailand is reckless. These things are hideously dangerous as this chap has discovered (twice).

 

I've not been on a motorbike anywhere for more than 40 years and have intention of ever doing so.

Motorbikes are so dangerous, really, i am always being attacked by them, it's a terrible problem!

 

Being rear ended is dangerous, be you on foot, bike or motorbike. 

 

40 years of not being on a motorbike and handing out advise?

 

How do you travel around Thailand?

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15 hours ago, Bulldozer Dawn said:

Ever been to Phuket?

yes forty years ago, what are you saying? no other forms of transportation?

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1 hour ago, bandito said:

 

In 1999 the Bangkok-Pattaya Hospital refused to admit me unless I put up a deposit, that while I was insured.

After phoning my Health Insurer, who did pay a deposit immediately, I got admitted.

While there I got visited every day with a request for more money at which I answered that I was insured and to contact my insurer.

After treatment was finished the hospital refused me to leave my room until full payment was made.

Thanks to the cell phone could I call my insurer who paid the bill and I could leave.

Suckers! :shock1: :w00t::1zgarz5:

what you say is completely true! years go a friend of mine passed away in a bangkok hospital and they would not release the body until the spouse paid the bill! he had Military insurance and when the check arrived it was in his name! she had to pull some "thai" strings to get "him" to sign the check and het him out of the freezer and to the burner!

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17 hours ago, captspectre said:

ever heard of a songtail? a taxi?even a samlor?  there are other ways of getting around in thailand!

Songtail? Two tails? Is it some mad dog pulled trike?

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17 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

To have got on the bike shows a scant regard for his own wellbeing so he should have took a taxi with 4 wheels end of. 

So you never travel on a motorbike? They are illegal to ride or be a passenger on, you are aware of that i presume?

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23 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I think your argument that 70% of accident victims here leaving hospital on a bike is non relevant. He was a tourist on travel insurance not a local on the family conveyance.

The second accident was 3 weeks later and I can see the insurance company's reasoning that riding pillion with one arm in a sling could be foolhardy.

I'm not necessarily agreeing the company made the right decision, I do think the smaller cheaper ones sometimes seize any excuse to reject claims. Also the conflicting versions of the accident is concerning.

The mother telling lies about the level of hospital treatment to bolster funding efforts is lamentable. Some readers may be aware there is a government funding initiative now in place which requires hospitals to give free emergency treatment in circumstances like this.

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/976378-72-hour-emergency-treatment-for-free-at-any-hospital/

 

 

23 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I think your argument that 70% of accident victims here leaving hospital on a bike is non relevant. He was a tourist on travel insurance not a local on the family conveyance.

The second accident was 3 weeks later and I can see the insurance company's reasoning that riding pillion with one arm in a sling could be foolhardy.

I'm not necessarily agreeing the company made the right decision, I do think the smaller cheaper ones sometimes seize any excuse to reject claims. Also the conflicting versions of the accident is concerning.

The mother telling lies about the level of hospital treatment to bolster funding efforts is lamentable. Some readers may be aware there is a government funding initiative now in place which requires hospitals to give free emergency treatment in circumstances like this.

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/976378-72-hour-emergency-treatment-for-free-at-any-hospital/

 

I think from reading about this scheme when it was first announced that it only applies to Thai people

The private hospitals are supposed to treat them for "life threatening" conditions but from what I have read recently there have been a number of cases where it hasn't happened

I don't believe it applies to non Thais as in most cases ( apart from if you are married to a a government employee) you are not covered by any government scheme 

In this case I would be happy to be proved wrong

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6 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

 

I think from reading about this scheme when it was first announced that it only applies to Thai people

The private hospitals are supposed to treat them for "life threatening" conditions but from what I have read recently there have been a number of cases where it hasn't happened

I don't believe it applies to non Thais as in most cases ( apart from if you are married to a a government employee) you are not covered by any government scheme 

In this case I would be happy to be proved wrong

See post #14

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Hospitals are in the business of health care and the business of health care should come before money. They are entitled to be paid but concerns about payment should be secondary to health care. Does a restaurant ask for proof of payment before you order and eat a meal? No. If money is so important to the hospitals that they might leave a patient untreated then they are in the wrong business and should instead sell noodles from a cart on a street corner.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Its clearly the minivan driver or the minivan driver his insurance company who are responsible for all costs!

Since we don't know for sure there was a minivan involved, let alone that it rear ended the motorbike the victim was riding pillon on, no, not 'clearly'.

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19 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Since we don't know for sure there was a minivan involved, let alone that it rear ended the motorbike the victim was riding pillon on, no, not 'clearly'.

Yes the story mentioned a minivan banged in from behind.

So get the driver and or his company to pay all medical costs.why do people write here that the minivan driver should be the hook?

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57 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Yes the story mentioned a minivan banged in from behind.

So get the driver and or his company to pay all medical costs.why do people write here that the minivan driver should be the hook?

The story also mentioned a collision with an oncoming vehicle. As I said, not very 'clearly'.

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22 hours ago, stevenl said:

Your ID has nothing to do with the new 'free 72 hour emergency treatment'.

 

You may be, inadvertently,  correct in that this new rule also applies to permanent residents, I don't know.

what I meant by ID was a 30bt card

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