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3 hours ago, DrDave said:

No, because Singapore has a very no-nonsense approach to government in which corruption is not tolerated in any form. Very difficult for organized crime to get a foothold without the help of corrupt government officials and police. Nearly the polar opposite of Thailand.

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3 hours ago, DrDave said:

No, because Singapore has a very no-nonsense approach to government in which corruption is not tolerated in any form. Very difficult for organized crime to get a foothold without the help of corrupt government officials and police. Nearly the polar opposite of Thailand.

 



Las Vegas Sands and Resorts World manage the two regulated casinos in Singapore, and other casino properties around the world.
 

Are you really suggesting that those two companies could not successfully manage a regulated casino in Thailand that caters almost exclusively to foreign tourists and they would be somehow overrun with warring “triads”?

 

 Perhaps you are afraid the new “triads” would introduce prostitution and other new vices to thailand  as a result of having casinos?

 

 

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Not sure about this, was driving into Town form kamala and passing the Kalima resort on the left before patong,  7 Large bus's were parked an it seems like a bunch of Chinese were boarding.

 

 1st time i have seen that many bus's in one place in over 7 months

 

Am sure somewhere will be welcoming in needed $$$$$$$

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In times like this, there are many rumours flying around the place as to what is happening and what isn't, so I thought I would mention a few that I have heard just recently........

 

I do know for a fact that Taipan has been undergoing renovation and it has been said that the owners have bought what was the Yorkshire Inn and are going to make the kitchen and dining area a little larger (which is great because the food there was very good) and have use of the swimming pool! The thought of drunken revellers and a swimming pool does bring the word "danger" to mind.

 

Heard a rumour that the owner of the Aussie bar was considering closing and the few times I have been past of late would suggest that the patronage would not really be paying the bills, and it has gotten smaller since its heyday, so that would be no surprise.

 

How much longer can Bar Funk stay open with an average of a handful of patrons over the weekend, and most of those are Thais, not spending much money? Again, a rumour that the owner would be walking away from it soon was doing the rounds.

 

Was at Hippie Road bar about a week ago, past midnight, and there was nobody there to listen to the band, which had just started up, whereas a few months ago, even with the virus ever present (or not as the case may be) there would be perhaps 10 people or more waiting for an evening's musical entertainment.

 

And last but not least, the haunt of many a farang (Suzie Wongs) in the late/early hours is also feeling the pinch I believe, this especially as on a recent visit on a friends birthday, just after midnight, we were the only 2 customers in the place!
 

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8 minutes ago, DrDave said:

No, I'm not suggesting these companies couldn't run a "clean" operation, or that warring triads would take over.

I am, however, suggesting that these two companies would never be given that opportunity in Thailand when there is so much potential for enrichment of government officials from a management group operating outside of the law.


i agree that the only way Thailand could make it a success is if they outsourced the management and control to reputable international casino operators. 
 


 

 

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52 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:


i agree that the only way Thailand could make it a success is if they outsourced the management and control to reputable international casino operators. 
 


 

 

And let the monies flow to others' pockets?  Never going to happen.

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/singapores-marina-bay-sands-casino-faces-us-money-laundering-probe-bloomberg

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1 hour ago, Kopitiam said:


Casinos around the world have issues with money laundering, but real estate is by far the biggest money laundering industry globally. 
 

Most regulated large casinos do try to minimize the problem. Like anything, they could make it work well in Thailand if they do it right, or make it a disaster if they do it t.i.t  style.

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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

To be correct, the Patong you loved is dying, but Patong will survive and not in a way, IMO, that farangs will like.

I used to love Patong myself back in the early 1990s, but it became too expensive without being better value for money so I stopped going there. I might have gone there as a gateway to Phi Phi, had that unfortunate island not been destroyed by greed ( NOT by the tsunami- that happened later ). Sadly, every touristy location in LOS has been afflicted, IMO, by greed and most have sold their soul for baht. The only holdout IMO was Phangan, and even there the flashpackers were moving in when last I visited.

Patong may be dying as a place those like you can love, but it's not alone, by far.

 

If I were younger I'd be looking to Burma with it's undeveloped Andaman coastline as the next paradise to explore. Sadly for us, IMO Thailand has chosen the Chinese demographic and they are, IMO, going to fundamentally change the tourism in LOS to something I want no part of.

Patong is NOT Phuket>>> and agree, Phuket will survive,  its in their genes

I have traveled all over Burma, from the far north to the east, west and as far south as Kwathong.

Beaches outside Daweii at Maungmagan are the finest i have seen in 35 years in Thailand,

reminiscent  of Khao lak in the 90's
problem is there are NO long staying visas unless ur working or married>

28 days is not enough to truly see the country which i feel is the best,  at this point in time) in SE Asia
If I was back in my 30-40's....... id be there
 

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I went to Patong early evening. The beach was reasonably busy with Thais just after sunset, probably due to the food street currently in place at the back of the beach as that got busier as people left the beach.

 

The food street wasn't exactly packed but it had quite a few people there. A lot of the stalls have signed up for the Government 50/50 payment scheme, so many Thais were using their phones to pay. I assume it will remain for the Bike Week.

 

But Rat-U-Thit remains depressingly dark and dead.

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9 hours ago, Patong2 said:

Xylophone, that report certainly sounds a bit more positive.

Some things are starting to try to come back

Yes P2 some folks are trying to make a go of it, and good on them for doing so, and Salute restaurant is supposedly opening next week, so that's another bonus........now all we want is more free spending farangs!

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Being optimistic is fine BUT reality check please

With the country still closed, except for a chosen few with deep pockets

i dont see anything positive .  Local domestic tourism wont help phuket much.

 

i foresee more closures across the west coast as places open, but find they cant cover costs so close back up.

 

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3 hours ago, zzzzz said:

Being optimistic is fine BUT reality check please

With the country still closed, except for a chosen few with deep pockets

i dont see anything positive .  Local domestic tourism wont help phuket much.

 

i foresee more closures across the west coast as places open, but find they cant cover costs so close back up.

 

Yes, I do fear that is going to happen and following on from my "optimistic" post I have noticed some more small businesses, like massage parlours, opening up again, but have also seen other shops closing at the same time, so maybe a type of status quo is happening?

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1 hour ago, schlog said:

Run to the hills. Run for your life.... the cruisers are coming.

Today in the morning what surprise.

7 tender boats and parts of 1 floating pier.

 

Do they know more or is it only a habit to bring it in november to patong???

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Read somewhere yesterday visa,s were being issued to passengers on cruise ships and yachts to visit Pattaya and Phuket.

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1 hour ago, Olmate said:

Read somewhere yesterday visa,s were being issued to passengers on cruise ships and yachts to visit Pattaya and Phuket.

 

Yes, that was for yachts, but they have to moor in Phuket waters for 14 days and quarantine onboard, some coast guard or navy will check and keep an eye on them that they don't leave, then after a negative test they can disembark..., I don't think cruise ships can do something like that...!!!? 

 

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