Jingthing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, maximillian said: yeah, shoot the messenger. The leaks were selective and designed to help elect trump president. You don't think there was dirt on the trump side? The Russians weren't interested in that. So it's not as simple as you present. Not excusing what the DNC did but not excusing the sleazy tactics of Putin either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silurian Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Here is the graph that sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 The image of the US has stayed the same around the world...it was, is now and always will be: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasanews Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 It is not only the United States that has bad president, look around the world most of as bad or even worse. A world lead by arrogant morons. Guys let us face it I think the world will tumble more and more but when a crisis comes along like world stock market crash this time we are all going to farming for our daily bread. I had a good life, how about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Yes, of course. White supremacists internationally totally relate to him. That's not fair. It's not like he's appointed a former editor of alt-right hate sheet as chief advisor, or put a black man in charge of HUD just because he's black or ever questioned the American birth of the country's first black president. When he does those things, you can liken him to a White Supremacist. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendofthai Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This is not a Trump`s problem because nothing has changed. The world is getting tired of endless military conflicts all over the world. This is the main reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 No doubt exacerbated by the always on media needing to fill air time and web space. Trump farts out of his mouth on Monday. MSM spices it up and will blather on endlessly about it until the next weekly terrorist attack somewhere, or until Trump farts out of his mouth again - whichever comes first. Mission Accomplished! Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: dont be so sure. solar is being taken up on a massive scale and the price of panels is coming down very quickly. also there are several cold fusion reactors being built. that will change everything. I don't believe that solar will make it very far anytime soon, I don't think it can keep up with the increase in demand much less cut into the present demand. Yes I believe that nuclear power has a chance to do a lot, but you have to get past the people that really don't want them. I am also unsure of the supply of fuel for nukes. The worlds demand for power is going to explode as third world countries develop, I would bet the amount of cars in Thailand has doubled in ten years, and Thailand is not a third world country. I think the US will be on top of the changes but that won't benefit the working class much, they will be working to survive while the rich will continue to buy bigger and bigger yachts, ships, jets, rockets etc. They will be building their own islands also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuakmuaynina Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 No surprises there.. in other news bear shits in woods.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 49 minutes ago, tonray said: The image of the US has stayed the same around the world...it was, is now and always will be: How long did the Romans say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 the 2008 Great Recession caused many Americans to go broke; lose jobs and houses and cars. In addition, constant rises in basics such as healthcare and other essentials has caused many Americans to lose hope. All the politicians are to blame. Along comes Donald Trump- a wealthy business man who says he is going to make America great again- bring back the jobs; have great healthcare; take care of our military and Vets. Sounds good. The problem is it was all based upon lies; boasts; arrogance and enough people believed it-they elected a demagogue. Donald Trump could care less about the average American. He is an incompetent who relies on a wealthy inner circle with an alt right agenda that if allowed to go forward will solidify the wealthy corporate control of the American state and the destruction of any American dream. It's no wonder the rest of the World looks upon America and Amereicans as foolish. Trump's statements are bizarre and his demeanor is the antipathy of being Presidential. He thinks hanging up on the Australian Prime Minister makes him look strong; pushing a Prime Minister out of is way look Presidential and refusing to shake the hand of the German Chancellor look in charge. Instead- all of this makes Trump look like he really is- a narcissistic meglomaniac who has no business being President. Donald Trump and his agenda must be defeated and either voted out of office or removed via the 25th Amendment or if evidence of malfeasance exists impeached and convicted. Each day that goes by shows just how much damage this man is doing to the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, nasanews said: It is not only the United States that has bad president, look around the world most of as bad or even worse. A world lead by arrogant morons. Guys let us face it I think the world will tumble more and more but when a crisis comes along like world stock market crash this time we are all going to farming for our daily bread. I had a good life, how about you? Sure there are many bad leaders in the world. But the USA has been seen as the "leader of the free world" (if that grates it's still the world's largest economy with the strongest military) and now has a so called president more fit for a banana republic / African dictatorship, etc. It's a very dangerous situation now thanks to trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 2 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: Personally I think Trump will do more positive things for America than the several presidents before him combined. Unlike o,bama at least he is on the side of the American people ! ....oh yeah...onside the appalachian Hillybillies maybe...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasanews Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, friendofthai said: This is not a Trump`s problem because nothing has changed. The world is getting tired of endless military conflicts all over the world. This is the main reason. No Trump is a problem and it is even worse to know there are tens of millions who have hope in him, they are as bad and stupid as him. Don't forget that Trump was mocked like hell by many including Obama which turned out to true remarks from Trump critics. So Trump was bad from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, ujayujay said: ....oh yeah...onside the appalachian Hillybillies maybe...... He's not even on their side. He conned them for their votes. His policies are hitting groups like that harder than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Trump's whole method of operation is to lie and misrepresent everything. His promises are shallow and he is intent on wasting American's tax dollars on ridiculous border walls that serve no purpose; deport immigrants who have contributed to the American economy; a military budget increase that makes the US military budget already the biggest in the World even larger. - and to do this Trump will throw millions of Americans off healthcare; reduce medicaid for elderly Americans and eliminate necessary programs like Meals on Wheels and Planned Parenthood. While Americans watched border wall construction- others will be dying as a result of no healthcare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasanews Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 All Politicians lie but no body is as bad as Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Grubster said: The biggest down fall of the USA is they way the rich on both sides of the isle are taking the american dream away from those working class people who built and defended the country. Oil will be the number one source of energy in fifty years with nuclear and gas running a close race for second. Alternative energy will be well under 20%. I agree with all but your closing sentence. Alt.energy is growing by leaps and bounds, despite some big electric companies trying to sabotage its growing popularity. In India and other places, solar panels produce electric at cheaper costs than coal. Anyone who is still saying 'solar is only good on sunny days' needs to hone up on recent developments. Thanks to the Dufus in Chief pulling the US out of the Paris Accords, China will increase its reputation as the go-to country for solar installations. Thanks, Trump, for putting the US at the back of the queue. There are many bright innovators in the US, many of whom are at the vanguard of developing alternative energy solutions - but they've all been disadvantaged (compared to other countries' experts) due to Trump's idiotic antics. 4 hours ago, tomwct said: No just the opposite! The silent majority is rockin' now and will continue for the next 8 years. Obama was taking us down the Socialist Europe Route and bankrupting us on the way. That has come to a stop! In two years everything Obama did will be reversed and America's Economy will be booming! God Bless America, while we make America Great Again. We are 5-0 in elections since President Trump took over! The Progressive Socialists Democrats of America (PSDA) are in decline and will be for the foreseeable future. Looks like Hillary & Bernie maybe going to jail and not President Trump. You and I hope for two different Americas. I'd like to see an America where most people can get access to health care. Trumpsters don't. I'd like to see America maintain its national parks without letting parts of them go to mining & drilling, Trumpsters don't. I'd like to see an America with a president who is looking out for the well-being of all Americans. Trumpsters only want to coddle the rich. 3 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: Personally I think Trump will do more positive things for America than the several presidents before him combined. Unlike o,bama at least he is on the side of the American people ! He got less than 20% of American adults to vote for him. HRC got a bit more for her. Most Americans of voting age didn't vote. Of those who voted for him, many are leaving the fold, week by week, as they become aware of his trail of lies. Trump hasn't hardly begun his plans to ruin the US economy, but when he gets his pamper-the-rich concepts fully cranked up, he will really shaft it to non-rich Americans. Republican Brownback destroyed Kansas' economy in recent years. Trump will do the same for America, but on a larger scale. P.S. Obama is wildly more popular in the US than Trump ever was. It's even more true, from an international perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, nasanews said: All Politicians lie but no body is as bad as Trump. That should be required watching for anyone who doubts Trump is a despicable character. If I had a little boy who was having a 6th b'day party and Trump wanted to attend, I'd say 'no.' A suggestions: One slight addition for the video of Don's lies: he said during the campaign, "I would love to release my tax forms, believe me." Of course, there are hours of other video/audio proofs of what a mafia-wannabe punk Trump is. Someone will make a feature length film, ....and there will still be miles of tape on the cutting room floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesquite Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 4 hours ago, tomwct said: No just the opposite! The silent majority is rockin' now and will continue for the next 8 years. Obama was taking us down the Socialist Europe Route and bankrupting us on the way. That has come to a stop! In two years everything Obama did will be reversed and America's Economy will be booming! God Bless America, while we make America Great Again. We are 5-0 in elections since President Trump took over! The Progressive Socialists Democrats of America (PSDA) are in decline and will be for the foreseeable future. Looks like Hillary & Bernie maybe going to jail and not President Trump. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Please. I'm trying to keep my supper down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, tomwct said: I am proud to be an American Again! You snowflakes need to get use to it! I wish I could be proud of the people manning the Oval Office, but I'd have to wish for the downfall of America, for me to feel that way. The debilitation of the USA is already happening. Open your eyes. I recall feeling good about Obama. Many reasons and times, but particularly when he gave an informal speech to his campaign staff right after his victory for a 2nd term. He was standing in front of a blank wall, on the same floor level as his staff. He spoke softly, without text or teleprompter. He was sincere, decent, kind and eloquent. .....such qualities that Donald has never, and will never possess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Good observation- President Obama spoke in a controlled voice- ever aware that his words had meaning to a wide spectrum of listeners including non Americans. Even George Bush was a better orator than Trump. Trump will never make America a great country again simply because he understands nothing about what 'great' means. He will go down in history as the worst President ever and he will lose considerable face in the process. Those of you who continue to support this meglomaniac will eventually realize he has lied and misled you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackh Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 who cares? Or as Hillary would say, What difference does it make?" Trump will power through all the rhetoric and bs stirred up by the NWO elitists the world over and stay on task like a bulldog. THe winds of change are among us and by the time Trump settles in for his 2nd term, things will be well on the way to MAGA. Patience is the key. Democrats left our govt on tatters and a lot has to be done to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Donald Trump will win an election again for anything- including dog catcher. I have doubts he will be able to complete his current term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 1 hour ago, tomwct said: I am proud to be an American Again! You snowflakes need to get use to it! Your pride means nothing to me so I don't have to get used to it. The man-child continues to embarrass himself and the US goes from being feared by enemies and admired by allies to being admired by enemies and feared by allies. I am ashamed to admit it but the last election has shaken my hitherto rock solid belief in democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Grubster said: The biggest down fall of the USA is they way the rich on both sides of the isle are taking the american dream away from those working class people who built and defended the country. Oil will be the number one source of energy in fifty years with nuclear and gas running a close race for second. Alternative energy will be well under 20%. I agree with the fist sentence, but I think you then fell off your rocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Your pride means nothing to me so I don't have to get used to it. The man-child continues to embarrass himself and the US goes from being feared by enemies and admired by allies to being admired by enemies and feared by allies. I am ashamed to admit it but the last election has shaken my hitherto rock solid belief in democracy.You can be a proud American and anti trump at the same time. But there is no denying these are dark times for the USA. All democratic norms are under attack from the vile trumpist movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Donald Trump will win an election again for anything- including dog catcher. I have doubts he will be able to complete his current term.Have you learned nothing? There is a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 hours ago, tomwct said: No just the opposite! The silent majority is rockin' now and will continue for the next 8 years. Obama was taking us down the Socialist Europe Route and bankrupting us on the way. That has come to a stop! In two years everything Obama did will be reversed and America's Economy will be booming! God Bless America, while we make America Great Again. We are 5-0 in elections since President Trump took over! The Progressive Socialists Democrats of America (PSDA) are in decline and will be for the foreseeable future. Looks like Hillary & Bernie maybe going to jail and not President Trump. Sucking up the propaganda go, go, go! You may want to get some independent data points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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