Jonathan Fairfield Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguston Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 The main change I can see is motorbike riders have become even worse. Liked the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Pattaya really was a great fun place back then. Of course one had to be there then to know. I was and glad I was there before greed destroyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Hard to believe what has happened in just 10 years. Compare Jomtien beach with the video of 1984: https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/990459-video-jomtien-beach-1984/ 1 hour ago, ferguston said: The main change I can see is motorbike riders have become even worse. No Entry / No Problem Wrong way through "walking street". Oops, a policeman who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 I saw one guy wearing a helmet. Obviously some wierdo!!! I was there that year. A much better place then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 No, forget Pattaya 1994. Looks way to primitive and boring. The Beach rd was basically a mess. If you like that scene there are shabby places all over the gulf that look like that now. Actually I would take Pattaya 2017 over 1994. Now compared to Pattaya 2004 - Forget about it. Was the best of two worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, HHTel said: saw one guy wearing a helmet. Obviously some wierdo!!! I was there that year. A much better place then. Because nobodies wearing helmets ? Did you have a death wish ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 LOL> Lam Morrison live at Saloon Bar, 1984: Minute 3:30 in this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 3 hours ago, morrobay said: No, forget Pattaya 1994. Looks way to primitive and boring. The Beach rd was basically a mess. If you like that scene there are shabby places all over the gulf that look like that now. Actually I would take Pattaya 2017 over 1994. Now compared to Pattaya 2004 - Forget about it. Was the best of two worlds. 1994 just before Pattaya Bay became plasticised and then resembled any other beach in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Pattaya really was a great fun place back then. Of course one had to be there then to know. I was and glad I was there before greed destroyed it. Absolutely, Pattaya was better in many ways back, "in the day." Been coming to Thailand since 1971 US military. I live just North of Pattaya on the beach in Naklua. It's actually very nice. The "zoo" is only 15, 20 minutes away on the bhat bus. Still great fun. Nothing like the old days though. We were really treated like kings then. Knowing the "ropes" and a little Thai makes a big difference on the fun factor. Limiting the booze is key. It's nice to be able to get away to peace and quiet and much cleaner place around the Centara Grand Mirage area. Different world really... http://www.centarahotelsresorts.com/centaragrand/cmbr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, joeyg said: Absolutely, Pattaya was better in many ways back, "in the day." Been coming to Thailand since 1971 US military. I live just North of Pattaya on the beach in Naklua. It's actually very nice. The "zoo" is only 15, 20 minutes away on the bhat bus. Still great fun. Nothing like the old days though. We were really treated like kings then. Knowing the "ropes" and a little Thai makes a big difference on the fun factor. Limiting the booze is key. It's nice to be able to get away to peace and quiet and much cleaner place around the Centara Grand Mirage area. Different world really... http://www.centarahotelsresorts.com/centaragrand/cmbr/ You don't have to go that far away to find peace and tranquillity. You can find it a stone's throw away from Walking Street in the Pratumnak Hill area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmonman Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 8 hours ago, morrobay said: No, forget Pattaya 1994. Looks way to primitive and boring. The Beach rd was basically a mess. If you like that scene there are shabby places all over the gulf that look like that now. Actually I would take Pattaya 2017 over 1994. Now compared to Pattaya 2004 - Forget about it. Was the best of two worlds. Were you there in 1994? I was and it was way, way better then, unless you're into big shopping malls I guess. Its not about the physical state of the road. Its about the attitude of the people, the ease of getting around, the atmosphere in the bars and shops. Today, 2017, is way to commercialized, cynical, crowded and unpleasant. You may have a point though about 2004 being the best time of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryLEB Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 10 hours ago, tropo said: LOL> Lam Morrison live at Saloon Bar, 1984: Minute 3:30 in this video: At minute 3'16" is Bier Kutsche. Was my favourite German restaurant until one year, when I arrived on holiday, it was gone. Great fun seeing this video; started visiting here in '83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, LarryLEB said: At minute 3'16" is Bier Kutsche. Was my favourite German restaurant until one year, when I arrived on holiday, it was gone. Great fun seeing this video; started visiting here in '83. Was our favourite place too, around the turn of the eighties, fantastic steaks with stacked toppings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 14 hours ago, tropo said: You don't have to go that far away to find peace and tranquillity. You can find it a stone's throw away from Walking Street in the Pratumnak Hill area. Yep. I never liked that area though. Always got weird vibes there. Like too many ghosts around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 10 hours ago, charmonman said: Were you there in 1994? I was and it was way, way better then, unless you're into big shopping malls I guess. Its not about the physical state of the road. Its about the attitude of the people, the ease of getting around, the atmosphere in the bars and shops. Today, 2017, is way to commercialized, cynical, crowded and unpleasant. You may have a point though about 2004 being the best time of the three. Indeed. We were treated like kings in those days. For pennies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Thai drivers, eh?!?! Complete idiots! Oh no their FOEIGNERS - what a surprise, somethings never change - no hats, not signals and no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 23 hours ago, Airbagwill said: Thai drivers, eh?!?! Complete idiots! Oh no their FOEIGNERS - what a surprise, somethings never change - no hats, not signals and no idea. Don't forget the video was taken 24 years ago at a time when it really was laid back with literally nothing compared to the traffic we have now. For me, at that time (1994) the changes were happening slowly and steadily. But I still think the biggest changes happened around 1999 - 2000. I moved to Phitsanulok in 1999 and came back to Pattaya for a holiday the next year. Was completely knocked on my behind with what they had done to the place in such a short time. Perhaps it was a case of if you live it you don't notice the changes so much. But, IMO, it was a much better time back then for Pattaya............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, chrisinth said: Don't forget the video was taken 24 years ago at a time when it really was laid back with literally nothing compared to the traffic we have now. For me, at that time (1994) the changes were happening slowly and steadily. But I still think the biggest changes happened around 1999 - 2000. I moved to Phitsanulok in 1999 and came back to Pattaya for a holiday the next year. Was completely knocked on my behind with what they had done to the place in such a short time. Perhaps it was a case of if you live it you don't notice the changes so much. But, IMO, it was a much better time back then for Pattaya............... History doesn't mitigate bad driving. What it does do is show that Foreigners were and have a history of dreadful driving in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 heh heh I'm picturing the then and now... of some circa vintage cam, perched high on a helmet: vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Thanks for sharing the 1984 and 1994 videos..... somewhat nostalgic!! .... I don't go to Pattaya or Jomtien anymore..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Much better in 1974. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 02/07/2017 at 2:03 PM, HHTel said: I saw one guy wearing a helmet. Obviously some wierdo!!! I was there that year. A much better place then. For the first 5 minutes of the video I thought that maybe helmets were illegal back in 1994, but then I saw not just one but TWO riders wearing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Airbagwill said: History doesn't mitigate bad driving. What it does do is show that Foreigners were and have a history of dreadful driving in Thailand. Oh please don't get me wrong, I would be one of the last to disagree with you regarding foreigners driving badly here in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 What was that "surf" shop on right side at the beginning? No surfing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 First came to Thailand in 1983. Lived in Bangkok from 1990 to 2001. I still visit Thailand maybe every two to three years. There certainly have been a lot of changes. Some are better and some are worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Different Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I cant believe my eyes. Amazing change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 7/2/2017 at 12:24 PM, charmonman said: Were you there in 1994? I was and it was way, way better then, unless you're into big shopping malls I guess. Its not about the physical state of the road. Its about the attitude of the people, the ease of getting around, the atmosphere in the bars and shops. Today, 2017, is way to commercialized, cynical, crowded and unpleasant. You may have a point though about 2004 being the best time of the three. place really went downhll after 2006. 2004 was my first time and thought it was fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 An excellent video on how not to drive. So since 1994 there appears to be no improvement in the driving skills that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Thanks for posting the video, I have not seen before, and there are many on Youtube, loved the bit coming out of Jomtien beach and round the corner to virtually nothing I am guessing Jomtien Plaza was just about finished around then, I remember seeing it being built and thinking one day I would like to live there, ten years later i did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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