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7 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

No, she made mistakes, she adopted and pursued bad policy. That doesn't make her criminally liable or negligent, any more than the current mob for their even more abysmal policies and extravagances.

Yes, 'Prbkk', yes, it makes her criminally liable and negligent! As it should, and IMO will some day be, for what you call 'the current mob' and (hopefully all) 'abysmal policies and extravagances' they might be involved in! Why are you guys locked up into that 'whether/or' kind of defence? Would it damage the coloured fences you entrench yourself behind to consider, eventually admit, that many, many people do disagree with, condemn, all the wrongs which have been, and are, done by anyone, whoever it might be, from all political parties, all colours of movements, or uniforms? 

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2 hours ago, Prbkk said:

In respect of honesty, integrity, fair play, decency, commitment to the community...YL runs rings around both the junta and the so-called Bangkok elite.

She said 'I am the PM of Thailand". Let us assume that was true. She then allowed a fugitive criminal access to cabinet meetings and to dictate policy for his own benefit.

Where does that fit in with " integrity, fair play, decency, commitment to the community."

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On 7/7/2017 at 3:52 PM, Bluespunk said:

Those who benefited were lucky. 

 

Many weren't. 

As far as I know all the farmers got paid for their rice until and maybe after the coup. The west has big subsidies and they are at 100% loss to the taxpayer every time, nobody going to jail for that.

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The whole rice scheme is nothing more than an irresponsible platform to win election. The scheme was wrong at the start before it was implemented. How rice could be put under mortgage at price so much higher than market price. Money used to pay for this scheme is taxpayer money. How could taxpayer money be spent like this? This scheme should have been stopped for long before it had caused huge loss to the country budget. Only irresponsible politicians who can do such a devastating damage to the country without any sign of repentance.

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On 7/7/2017 at 4:21 PM, Baerboxer said:

 

The other subsidies were on budget, included in the governments budget and had accounts.

 

This was off budget, apparently with no accounts but was assured to be self financing. 

 

Can you see the difference Eric?

That would be the first subsidy that I have ever heard of that would be self funding. Do you know what a subsidy is?

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37 minutes ago, Grubster said:

As far as I know all the farmers got paid for their rice until and maybe after the coup. The west has big subsidies and they are at 100% loss to the taxpayer every time, nobody going to jail for that.

They got paid until the forces of darkness threatened, cajoled, harassed and blackmailed the banks into stopping payments.

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37 minutes ago, Grubster said:

As far as I know all the farmers got paid for their rice until and maybe after the coup. The west has big subsidies and they are at 100% loss to the taxpayer every time, nobody going to jail for that.

Many across the country were not paid, some committed suicide and it was only after the pt/suthep debacle resulted in a coup, that many were paid. 

 

Those that were, were the lucky ones. Clearly that was the experience of those you know of. 

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34 minutes ago, Grubster said:

As far as I know all the farmers got paid for their rice until and maybe after the coup. The west has big subsidies and they are at 100% loss to the taxpayer every time, nobody going to jail for that.

actually no they didnt, that was also a big problem as the were demanding their money that was not forth coming for many months before the coup even started, one of the reasons the ptp tried to get a massive loan from China for trillions of baht so it would cover their butts and give them more to hide away. After the coup the ptp were supposed to have allowed for the money to pay the farmers before leaving office but they  didnt, this is why the ones that necked themselves are on her head, the farmers were eventually paid by the new govt.

 

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3 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

They got paid until the forces of darkness threatened, cajoled, harassed and blackmailed the banks into stopping payments.

that is pure bullsh*t and you know it, many were not paid before well before the coup or suthep and his crazies even started.

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1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Many across the country were not paid, some committed suicide and it was only after the pt/suthep debacle resulted in a coup, that many were paid. 

 

Those that were, were the lucky ones. Clearly that was the experience of those you know of. 

You are wrong.

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1 hour ago, seajae said:

that is pure bullsh*t and you know it, many were not paid before well before the coup or suthep and his crazies even started.

You are wrong.

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'Bluespunk', 'seajae': 'Grubster' writes: 'You are wrong', period! Don't waste your time with such characters, who, in reality, think 'I am right, so you are wrong', don't expect any such to have an atom of sense of relativation, they are the cannonfodder used by all kinds of obtuseness and extremism alas roaming on the planet since humanoids pollute it. Let's just stop posting in reaction of their blabber. For what the present matter is concerned, let him/her live further in his/her Thaksin good, the Shins good, the redshirts good, PTP good, all the rest bad, kind of stuff. There are persons reason(ing) cannot reach, and even specialists-in-the-human-psyche in the end decide just to administer medication to. That such characters don't have the ability to understand we are against any/every wrong done by anyone, red, yellow, blue, green, brown or white, to say it in colours, we have to live with: you are not with me, then you are against me is their mantra, leave them for what they are, hopeless.

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1 hour ago, Grubster said:

You are wrong.

On which point?

 

If you are referring to the ineptness of pt's rice scheme management and their catastrophically idiotic attempt to control world market prices, which in turn led to their complete and utter failure to pay for rice they took, then I am not. 

 

Far from it. 

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1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

On which point?

All your points in your last post, all the farmers were paid until after the coup, the suicides escalated a lot after the coup, The new PM has only made small cash payments to farmers, nothing to do with the rice scheme.

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8 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

On which point?

 

If you are referring to the ineptness of pt's rice scheme management and their catastrophically idiotic attempt to control world market prices, which in turn led to their complete and utter failure to pay for rice they took, then I am not. 

 

Far from it. 

They paid for the rice they took, they allowed much of it to rot and to be stolen, the taxpayer paid for a rice subsidy, let me know of which subsidy in any country that has been self supporting or profitable, subsidies are handouts plain and simple.

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