anon789561 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Happy enough said: jesus. you don't believe that. the junta didn't do anything wrong. just a bit of a clear out. about time the girls are hot in Vietnam. i'll give you that. anything else? no. bkk is the best city in asia. you might have had a bad experience. lick your wounds 5555 moan and bitch about it. hope you're happy where you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketjock Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, JackThompson said: I agree it primarily affects those with a history of longer-stays. Visa Exempts are one thing - with their own separate rule-set. Tourist Visas cannot be "abused" other than violation of their terms (not working, not overstaying, etc). The fellow turned-away with 25K Baht and a Tourist Visa followed the rules. As others have pointed out, what "they say" goes - rules/laws or not - which is sad. I mentioned VOA for other countries (not Thailand), as the only use I had for the USD I brought here, other than to satisfy Immigration entry-requirements. I agree people should find out about this rule, and should carry the cash, because this rule is being enforced. I hope more learn of this rule, so their plans are not derailed by an antique rule, combined with an absence of ATMs between incoming aircraft and Immigration control. Jack you are posting drama filled nonsense, how many bonafide real tourists have been refused entry for any reason, in the only, yes only, current cases that have come to light recently the 2 people involved had many recent back to back tourist/exempt entries and one did not comply with the money requirements. In addition to this they were unable to come up with satisfactory answers to the IO's questions and were rightly denied entry. They caused this problem themselves, no one else. Please stop blowing this non event out of all proportion, ALL OF YOU. Edited July 21, 2017 by phuketjock addition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, phuketjock said: Jack you are posting drama filled nonsense, how many bonafide real tourists have been refused entry for any reason, in the only, yes only, current cases that have come to light recently the 2 people involved had many recent back to back tourist/exempt entries and one did not comply with the money requirements. In addition to this they were unable to come up with satisfactory answers to the IO's questions and were rightly denied entry. They caused this problem themselves, no one else. Please stop blowing this non event out of all proportion, ALL OF YOU. I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I already agreed with you, that people who have come less frequently and/or stayed for short periods of time are not currently affected. Unfortunately, we don't know where "the line" is - so no way to know when/if one is crossing it. But this involves far more than 2 persons - and has affected people who haven't been in Thailand for weeks, months, etc - if you have read reports here going back years, as I have. Several have reported what they were told and, in many cases, the IOs quoted "rules" which do not exist. Some got through, and some did not. It is "making up the rules" and twisting the rules (no ATM access, while claiming lack of financial support) which is the problem. When "bonafide" is defined / part of the Thai Law/Rules on those entering with Tourist Visas, we can discuss whether "rightly denied entry" should apply. Edited July 21, 2017 by JackThompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketjock Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Just now, JackThompson said: I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I already agreed with you, that people who have come less frequently and/or stayed for short periods of time are not currently affected. But this involves far more than 2 persons - and has affected people who haven't been in Thailand for weeks, months, etc - if you have read reports here going back years, as I have. Several have reported what they were told and, in many cases, the IOs quoted "rules" which do not exist. Some got through, and some did not. It is "making up the rules" and twisting the rules (no ATM access, while claiming lack of financial support) which is the problem. When "bonafide" is defined / part of the Thai Law/Rules on those entering with Tourist Visas, we can discuss whether "rightly denied entry" should apply. Jack go and research how many people are refused entry in ONE day, never mind "going back years", in the USA and come back and let us know how bad Thailand is in comparison. You and others ARE blowing this way out of proportion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, JackThompson said: But this involves far more than 2 persons - How many ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, perthperson said: How many ? Going back how many years? I have been a regular reader here for a few years, and have seen many cases of problems on Exempts, ED, and Tourist entries. But, by all means, do not take my word for it. The best way to research this, is to use google to search only this site, with various terms, and use operands to maximize hits: So, for example - search: refused OR denied airport site:thaivisa.com That will return only results from this site. Then, be sure to read all the replies, because many have additional reports of similar, otherwise-unreported incidents and detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthperson Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, JackThompson said: and have seen many cases of problems on Exempts, ED, and Tourist entries. All very vague and unconvincing -------- No actual numbers or links to reliable information. Why make this stuff up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketjock Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, JackThompson said: Going back how many years? I have been a regular reader here for a few years, and have seen many cases of problems on Exempts, ED, and Tourist entries. But, by all means, do not take my word for it. The best way to research this, is to use google to search only this site, with various terms, and use operands to maximize hits: So, for example - search: refused OR denied airport site:thaivisa.com That will return only results from this site. Then, be sure to read all the replies, because many have additional reports of similar, otherwise-unreported incidents and detail. Jack you are the one making the ridiculous claims you back up your claims don't ask others to look for improbable support for your claims. Then come back and tell us you can actually support what you are saying with facts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancbk Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, perthperson said: All very vague and unconvincing -------- No actual numbers or links to reliable information. Why make this stuff up? Chicken Little Syndrome ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted July 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2017 Since this topic has gone way off topic and has turned into a back and forth bickering session for a few members it has certainly run it course it is now closed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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