webfact Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Aussie victim blamed for his death by Thai parasailing men Picture: Daily News PHUKET: -- The two Phuket men now in jail for the death of an Australian tourist say it was all his fault. Seventy one year old Roger John Hussey plunged to his death just off Kata beach in an incident caught by his Thai wife on a tragic holiday video. He survived the near 70 meter fall but died later in hospital. He was due to go back to Australia shortly after. The boat operator Monthian Jandaeng and the parasailing navigator Rungroj Rakcheep who went up with Mr Hussey have laid the blame at the tourist's door. They said they had been operating for ten years without an accident. According to Daily News Rungroj told Karon cops that he had checked the equipment in the morning and everything was fine. It was the tourist who let go then in trying to hold on again released himself. Rungroj said that he tried to hold onto him but was unable to. Both men have been jailed in Phuket and will face charges of negligence causing death. Meanwhile Daily News reported that while three operators on the island had suspended operations, parasailing activities were continuing yesterday on Karon and Patong beaches. The news media said that operators were taking more care and stepping up safety advice given to tourists. There were still plenty of takers for the activity despite this week's tragedy, they said. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-07-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Dreadful but not at all surprising. Blaming the dead guy from the outset. I am no expert but would have thought that safety features on such equipment for public use should be numerous and as a result negate such an occurence. I guess the only consolation is that these cowboys are in the nick already, with their attitudes like they are i hope they have a lengthly stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The two Thai men are blaming the Aussie for the accident !! Well of course they would, when have you ever heard of a Thai taking responsiblity for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 As a result of this tragedy, where the farang is, as usual blamed for his own death, all they can do is pretend that operators are taking more care and giving advice to tourists. The only worthwhile advice to tourists is to avoid all dangerous activities such parasailing, jet skiing, renting motor bikes, trips on overloaded boats without life jackets & etc. The operators of these things are poorly educated and have training in safety standards. Local authorities do not care as long as it makes money. You can enjoy your holiday in Thailand without these activities and go home safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyas Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, colinneil said: The two Thai men are blaming the Aussie for the accident !! Well of course they would, when have you ever heard of a Thai taking responsiblity for anything. I don't think it would be probable or likely for it too have been the Aussies fault, but it is quite possible. As is posted, these particular guys have 10 years operating previously without an accident. Not saying it was or was not, but wait and see what comes up, instead of constantly Thai bashing and conspiracy theories that abound . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I would blame the Thai guy with dreadlocks who jumped on the back of the tourist as it took off. 1 tourist in a harness, and one Thai person sitting on his shoulders isn't normal operating procedure. No spotter in the boat either, you're supposed to have a driver (looking forward and steering), and a spotter (watching the person towed) in the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradWilkins Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Hard to believe part of the harness doesnt go down around under the groin, and that the Thai tandem steerer seems to be unrestrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm just shocked. No way these upstanding members of society would put the blame on the innocent victim unless it was true........... Anyone checked the Kata/Karon guy that was caught charging for sand and then let off after his payoffs? How about tax records of these scumbags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradWilkins Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, steelepulse said: I'm just shocked. No way these upstanding members of society would put the blame on the innocent victim unless it was true........... Anyone checked the Kata/Karon guy that was caught charging for sand and then let off after his payoffs? How about tax records of these scumbags? And it was lucky he didnt hit the water near a jet ski, or they may have claimed for damage to a jet ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, BradWilkins said: Hard to believe part of the harness doesnt go down around under the groin, and that the Thai tandem steerer seems to be unrestrained. That's what I was thinking, the thai guy is totally unrestrained and then looks to swing his legs over Rogers head to gain some seating position, and Roger falls almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 There was a saying whenever a farang was involved in an unfortunate incident, for example, a car accident, that "If the farang wasn't here, it would never have happened, so it must be his fault" ! Unfortunately, quite a few Thais still believe in this theory ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: There was a saying whenever a farang was involved in an unfortunate incident, for example, a car accident, that "If the farang wasn't here, it would never have happened, so it must be his fault" ! Unfortunately, quite a few Thais still believe in this theory ! That is a saying only found on forums like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan1962 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Sorry to see the death of any tourist here in Thailand. But when you live in or visit a country with very substandard regards towards life and safety, this sort of thing comes across as acceptable.Nothing will change,it's another day today and life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Copy & pasted from the net: Check where the operator allows customers to take off Many parasailing injuries have occurred as a result of negligent operators “dragging” customers up from the beach rather than from the boat’s platform. If you notice a parasailing operator doing this, you should stay away. Although it may seem like more of a thrill, the practice is risky and the operator does not have the same amount of control over what happens to you as you take off as he or she would if you are standing safely on the platform of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradWilkins Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: That is a saying only found on forums like this. Have been going to Thailand for 30 years and yes this line of thinking is fairly common among a lot of Thais. Particularly with some Authorities . If you werent here this wouldn't have happened sometimes comes into the equation. When it comes to deciding who is at fault. Strange but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I was surprised to read that the 2 guys are still in jail. I expected they would be back in business. I am also pleased to read that all these operators island wide have been suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, BradWilkins said: Have been going to Thailand for 30 years and yes this line of thinking is fairly common among a lot of Thais. Particularly with some Authorities . If you werent here this wouldn't have happened sometimes comes into the equation. When it comes to deciding who is at fault. Strange but true. Sorry, disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradWilkins Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 23 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: There was a saying whenever a farang was involved in an unfortunate incident, for example, a car accident, that "If the farang wasn't here, it would never have happened, so it must be his fault" ! Unfortunately, quite a few Thais still believe in this theory ! Have been going to Thailand for 30 years and yes this line of thinking is fairly common among a lot of Thais. Particularly with some Authorities . If you werent here this wouldn't have happened sometimes comes into the equation. When it comes to deciding who is at fault. Strange but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Quote They said they had been operating for ten years without an accident. Based on prior media reports, they also apparently had been operating entirely without any license or permit for their business. So 10 years without ever being caught kind of shows you just how little safety enforcement is occurring out there. It's the Wild West in Thailand. BTW, am I the only one who thinks these guys look more like Africans than they do Thais??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 49 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Copy & pasted from the net: Check where the operator allows customers to take off Many parasailing injuries have occurred as a result of negligent operators “dragging” customers up from the beach rather than from the boat’s platform. If you notice a parasailing operator doing this, you should stay away. Although it may seem like more of a thrill, the practice is risky and the operator does not have the same amount of control over what happens to you as you take off as he or she would if you are standing safely on the platform of the boat. True enough.... I once saw a parasailer getting "towed" from the beach, and the sail dived downward ( moments after liftoff) slamming the guy into the back end of a nearby boat.... rather messy to me, this is a clear case of negligence and a failure of duty of care.... and I'm sure that the harness, if it hasn't disappeared, will show this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, BradWilkins said: Hard to believe part of the harness doesnt go down around under the groin, and that the Thai tandem steerer seems to be unrestrained. The groin straps were being worn....quite clear in the preparation and take-off video....I also thought the same and looked a couple of times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 “When we got back to shore … they just laughed at us. They have no concerns whatsoever for the safety of the people who are up there. It’s really worrying.” http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/07/13/15/48/australian-tourists-parasailing-accident-thailand A report of a recent incident from Patong Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 More to my post above: The West Australian newspaper reports that an experienced parasailing inspector things the leg rings on the leg straps likely failed.....causing the rider to fall through the harness https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/expert-claims-leg-rings-failure-led-to-fatal-fall-ng-b88535549z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklnooner Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 He was clipped in then somehow was released or the clips failed. They are not on a quick release of any kind. Looks like equipment failure or harness failure. Appeared to be bad sun damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyoops Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 There was a few photos of the man just before the incident ,one showed the harness being fitted .The harness looked like it was made of old havasack material and didn't look like anything modern .As other people have said it should be impossible to accidentally open the harness .I did parasailing many years ago in Bali ,the same method from the beach but no one riding piggy back ,what is that all about .In my view the equipment was outdated and doing this from the beach sould be banned . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Based on prior media reports, they also apparently had been operating entirely without any license or permit for their business. So 10 years without ever being caught kind of shows you just how little safety enforcement is occurring out there. It's the Wild West in Thailand. BTW, am I the only one who thinks these guys look more like Africans than they do Thais??? Because they pay off the people with authority. Because they work all day every day in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 What would be surprising is if the two Thai guys said it was an accident or their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Titan1962 said: Sorry to see the death of any tourist here in Thailand. But when you live in or visit a country with very substandard regards towards life and safety, this sort of thing comes across as acceptable.Nothing will change,it's another day today and life goes on. and death . . . and in the land of rebirth, the consequences are not as final. Are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I don't suppose there'll be an insurance payout any time soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 This could cause them a lot of grief. Time to man up, take the blame, and take the 500 baht fine squarely on the chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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