rooster59 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Italian - Thai win contract for dual track train project linking Hua Hin and Prajuab - building to start September. Image: Daily News Ambitious plans to develop a new railway line that will run along existing tracks between Hua Hin and Prajuab Khiri Khan have been announced.Following a bidding exercise that was entered by 11 companies the State Railway have said that Italian-Thai Development Company Limited has won the contract after their proposal of 5.8 billion baht was accepted.After final checks are made of the proposals contracts are expected to be signed next month that will mean the line can begin building in September.The work involves a track following the existing route for 84 kilometers.Two new railway bridges and twelve stations will be constructed.Yards for storage and commercial use will be constructed at Sam Roi Yot station and Thung Mamao station.Drainage work, pedestrian overpasses, a flyover and U-turn work also form part of the proposed construction.The track will be one meter gauge. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-07-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I live in Hua Hin. Like most of Thailand where tracks pass through a city, the Thais have built right up to the tracks. I did see some of those building being torn down. And they just built a new traffic circle which I am thinking will now have to be torn out. (?) I will be interesting to see how they will deal with traffic during construction. As it is now, when a train passes through town, traffic backs up east/west sometimes for a block or two as the train cuts the town in half. Of course a train arrives everyday during rush hour. By the way, this is what passes as excitement here in Hua Hin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Not surprised that as usual Italian-Thai won the "bidding". We all know who has the majority shares in that company so hence no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Father Fintan Stack said: They have killed a few workers in the last couple of months. Several lifting related accidents with many fatalities. Not just the last few months, the last few years and they are still allowed on to the bidders list. their safety record is appalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, gummy said: Not just the last few months, the last few years and they are still allowed on to the bidders list. their safety record is appalling Money and safety are worlds apart in Thailand. No cigar for guessing which is first and which is last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 It's nice to know that Thais have no prejudices, even if a company can hardly get a construction done without producing corpses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Another Death Railway!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Metre guage, sooner or later they will make the change although metre guage does save money but no high speed here then, short horizons as per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhinhh Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 What about the high speed track from Bangkok to South Thailand? Are they starting it two years later, looking for another route or rebuilding the one which just have been finished? And only two bridges. It needs at least a dozen. The benefit of a new railway with meter gauge and 11 stops it very limited and not worth billions of THB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, hhinhh said: What about the high speed track from Bangkok to South Thailand? Are they starting it two years later, looking for another route or rebuilding the one which just have been finished? And only two bridges. It needs at least a dozen. The benefit of a new railway with meter gauge and 11 stops it very limited and not worth billions of THB. You are right but it keeps people working, money makes the world go round even if it goes under the table. This scheme sounds like a huge waste of money but its not the people who makes the decisions money it it and we all know how easy it is to spend other people's money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDinosaw Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 35 minutes ago, hhinhh said: What about the high speed track from Bangkok to South Thailand? Are they starting it two years later, looking for another route or rebuilding the one which just have been finished? And only two bridges. It needs at least a dozen. The benefit of a new railway with meter gauge and 11 stops it very limited and not worth billions of THB. To some people this plan may seem absolute lunacy when a wider tracked high speed track is due to be constructed soon - but I could not possibly comment ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, wirat69 said: Another Death Railway!! This time construction with 24/7 "River Kwai March" sonication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, nong38 said: Metre guage, sooner or later they will make the change although metre guage does save money but no high speed here then, short horizons as per usual. They're running a duel gage, standard and narrow , sleepers have been narrow and standard configeration since they had a resleepering program early 2000, at main road crossings, high speed has a dedicated track, no goods traffic alowed , 2 slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 So where is the new track going to go exactly, east or west of the existing track ? My guess is that it will be inland so slightly to the west of the existing track. There's going to be a load of demolition along the route in and around Hua Hin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardinHuaHin Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Never mind a new railroad. What about the roads we have in Hua Hin now? That is if you can call them roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, RichardinHuaHin said: Never mind a new railroad. What about the roads we have in Hua Hin now? That is if you can call them roads. Catch a train instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Good news - so we just have to wait now for the State Railway of Thailand to inch towards the 20th century. Once that is achieved then go for the 21st century service level which would bring business, unlike these rolling coffins on wheels, marred by stench and delays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Where is the money coming from? Which bank or institution will be managing the funds. The General's rice scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godang Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: Where is the money coming from? Which bank or institution will be managing the funds. The General's rice scheme. Or maybe from Yinglucks money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie1 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 hours ago, gummy said: Not surprised that as usual Italian-Thai won the "bidding". We all know who has the majority shares in that company so hence no surprise. Who is it who has the majority in that company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 41 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: Where is the money coming from? Which bank or institution will be managing the funds. The General's rice scheme. It's amazing what you can afford in the way of infrastructure when you aren't wasting it on alleged subsidies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just.a.thought Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 They seem to be the ones with the most experience amongst the national candidates. Maybe give them a chance and see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the guest Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Well we all know where the expertise is coming from? I'll give you a clue, it's NOT the Thai side ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Charlie1 said: Who is it who has the majority in that company? do your own research, it is in the public domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bberrythailand Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 7 hours ago, gummy said: Not surprised that as usual Italian-Thai won the "bidding". We all know who has the majority shares in that company so hence no surprise. Cannot be shinawatra :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Lupatria said: It's nice to know that Thais have no prejudices, even if a company can hardly get a construction done without producing corpses. The volume of a Thai corpse costs a lot less than the equivalent volume of good quality cement! It makes good economic sense to kill off some of your workers when in construction here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Godang said: Or maybe from Yinglucks money. Her 36 billion has already been spent on the new sub, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Charlie1 said: Who is it who has the majority in that company? The Karnasuta family owns and controls the firm. There is nothing Italian about this company. The Italian partner died 35+ years ago. This is the company president Premchai Karnasuta. He is one of the wealthiest people in Thailand. His sister who has a large stake in the construction has the young son Yutachai. He "runs" Onyx Hospitality Group, of which the most notable brand in Thailand is the Amari Hotel Group. A word to the wise: In Thailand, be respectful and deferential to this family. The family does not need the Shinawatra clan. Rather, other people need this family as the construction firm has done much of the infrastructure work in Thailand because it meets the requirement of being Thai controlled, experienced and possessing the equipment and personnel to do the jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Metre guage, sooner or later they will make the change although metre guage does save money but no high speed here then, short horizons as per usual.The high speed is a farce in any case, but woukd run on an entirely different alignment. The reality is this is an upgrade that can and will happen at least.They desperately need a dual track from BKK to Surrathani (that's as far as tourism requires it anyway)There's no reason the same journey should be many hours shorter by bus. Can't handle the capacity also, need to book a decent express sleeper days in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Cannot be shinawatra :-) Guess again, someone with much more money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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