cumgranosalus Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 10:34 AM, ripley said: Just what Pattaya needs - another blow to business and tourism. And with some monitoring to prevent abuses, what's wrong with the "sleazy side"? It's part of the whole spring roll. It won't be a blow to business - whatever happens any redevelopment will make SOME people a lot of money. People are only interested in W/S because the real estate value has far exceeded the value to the businesses currently there - especially as the beachside businesses are almost all there illegally. - "built on sand" as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 When I lived in Rangoon sorry Yangon many years ago they used teams of prisoners (chained !) to clean up the streets . Just a thought . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 On 8/6/2017 at 10:52 AM, cumgranosalus said: It won't be a blow to business - whatever happens any redevelopment will make SOME people a lot of money. People are only interested in W/S because the real estate value has far exceeded the value to the businesses currently there - especially as the beachside businesses are almost all there illegally. - "built on sand" as it were. People are only interested in W/S because the real estate value has far exceeded the value to the businesses currently there Which would only be the ones on the land side, because they wouldn't allow building on the beach, would they? That so many wealthy people are only interested in what they think they can get for it goes to show how morally sick the world has become. There's more to life than yet another resort or shopping mall. The overt worship of money is why Thailand is no longer the paradise it once was. Greed has ruined it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Which would only be the ones on the land side, because they wouldn't allow building on the beach, would they? I last went to Pattaya for New Year 2009 so I have not personally seen any developments, if any, taking place; but I am intrigued by regular posts that say everything on the sea side of WStreet is illegal. How did this even come about and if there are developments underway now; why and how? Surely brown envelopes can only push so far!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just now, owl sees all said: I last went to Pattaya for New Year 2009 so I have not personally seen any developments, if any, taking place; but I am intrigued by regular posts that say everything on the sea side of WStreet is illegal. How did this even come about and if there are developments underway now; why and how? Surely brown envelopes can only push so far!? The beachside buildings have always been illegally built, and they were saying back in the 90s that they were going to be removed. Not removed for the usual reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: The beachside buildings have always been illegally built, and they were saying back in the 90s that they were going to be removed. Not removed for the usual reason. Thanks for the reply TBL. It intrigues me to hear that the girls should not hold beer placards and the signs are too low etc. When half the street is illegal. If Ch-o-ch was to order the removal of all the illegal buildings there would be quite a kerfuffle yet the authorities are continually snipping at the edges; so to speak. Can't really make it out. Do they want WStreet or not? (The authorities not the girls or punters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, owl sees all said: I last went to Pattaya for New Year 2009 so I have not personally seen any developments, if any, taking place; but I am intrigued by regular posts that say everything on the sea side of WStreet is illegal. How did this even come about and if there are developments underway now; why and how? Surely brown envelopes can only push so far!? After the envelopes it must be suitcases I would have thought unless there's something in between they use .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 When we drove by today on Beach Road it looked like they were working on the big Walking Street entrance sign/gate. Maybe they are finally doing some work on the super-tacky entrance to the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalus Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: People are only interested in W/S because the real estate value has far exceeded the value to the businesses currently there Which would only be the ones on the land side, because they wouldn't allow building on the beach, would they? That so many wealthy people are only interested in what they think they can get for it goes to show how morally sick the world has become. There's more to life than yet another resort or shopping mall. The overt worship of money is why Thailand is no longer the paradise it once was. Greed has ruined it. You are of course right - as I said the beach side is largely illegal and without deeds, so demolishing all that will enable a concrete beachfront development to take place - the beachfront properties have no future security and therefore no real value at all. The other side of walking street is now totally underdeveloped given the enormous potential for large hotels/condos and shopping malls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 On August 7, 2017 at 11:41 AM, cumgranosalus said: You are of course right - as I said the beach side is largely illegal and without deeds, so demolishing all that will enable a concrete beachfront development to take place - the beachfront properties have no future security and therefore no real value at all. The other side of walking street is now totally underdeveloped given the enormous potential for large hotels/condos and shopping malls. That's nonsense. There are about 3kms of development north of Walking. Outside a couple like Royal Garden & Central Festival, they bring in nowhere near the revenue for the owners as Walking Street does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, pegman said: That's nonsense. There are about 3kms of development north of Walking. Outside a couple like Royal Garden & Central Festival, they bring in nowhere near the revenue for the owners as Walking Street does. Why we have to care about their revenue?? Does it make these encroaching gogo bar suddenly legit? The law is very clear about this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 07/08/2017 at 6:13 PM, newnative said: When we drove by today on Beach Road it looked like they were working on the big Walking Street entrance sign/gate. Maybe they are finally doing some work on the super-tacky entrance to the street. I don't think this work is in relation with this WS board signs story. It's about 2-3 weeks already that they started to dismount the lower parts of this gate, and the reason is that it was falling apart. The support of the big Samsung TV seems strong (2 big cylindrical pylons + thick horizontal beams) and I don't thing there is problem with that main/upper part, but what had be added latter as support for many advertisement boards clearly look like quick bad construction, and some parts have fallen already. It was dangerous, they had to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 01/08/2017 at 10:36 PM, Thechook said: Is an eyesore and only advertising prostitution. It's a step towards cleaning up Thailands seedy international reputation. Still a long way to go before they can replace sex tourism with quality tourism. seafood and ice cream are advertised in beautiful neon lights. it's not an eyesore. it's beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 06/08/2017 at 10:09 AM, Jack100 said: When I lived in Rangoon sorry Yangon many years ago they used teams of prisoners (chained !) to clean up the streets . Just a thought . Prisoners are used to clean the sewers in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I don't see any any significant environmental value left of the 'beach' underneath the illegal side of walking street by all means raze them all down and build them up like a pier into the sea, like many pleasure pier in the UK with casinos and all with proper sanitation and maybe sewer plant/pump underneath it all and bid them out to the highest bidders, maybe have the existing owners have first refusal to buy even. I believe the navy puts marker along the high water marks on the beach, does that means they technically own everything down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Turner Mad Punx Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 On August 1, 2017 at 9:55 AM, docshock13 said: Why cant the authorities face facts? Instead of trying to force the leopard to change its spots, why dont they just admit Pattaya is an adult entertainment venue and put their resources into cleaning up the beaches and making it safer for tourists to enjoy? What does your comment have to do with emergency vehicle access? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKY Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 6:36 AM, Thechook said: Is an eyesore and only advertising prostitution. It's a step towards cleaning up Thailands seedy international reputation. Still a long way to go before they can replace sex tourism with quality tourism. Not everybody likes to see mountains and monkeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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