rooster59 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Take cover, avoid bomb flash. Guam issues nuclear guidelines By Doina Chiacu A view of posh hotels in the Tumon tourist district on the island of Guam, a U.S. Pacific Territory, August 11, 2017. REUTERS/Erik De Castro WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Guam posted emergency guidelines on Friday to help residents prepare for any potential nuclear attack after a threat from North Korea to fire missiles in the vicinity of the U.S. Pacific territory. Pyongyang's state-run KCNA news agency said on Thursday its army would complete plans in mid-August to fire four intermediate-range missiles over Japan to land near Guam as North Korea and the United States engaged in increasingly heated rhetoric this week over the North's nuclear weapons program. North Korea did not threaten Guam with a nuclear attack, but the crisis between Pyongyang and the United States has stirred fears that a nuclear conflict could break out in the region. While the governor of Guam shrugged off the North's missile warning and said there was no heightened threat, the government has issued a preparedness fact sheet. In language that evoked the specter of nuclear conflict during the Cold War, the guidelines cover what to do before, during and after a nuclear attack. "Do not look at the flash or fireball – It can blind you," it said. "Take cover behind anything that might offer protection." "Remove your clothing to keep radioactive material from spreading. Removing the outer layer of clothing can remove up to 90% of radioactive material," read the guidelines of what to do if caught outside. They suggest having an emergency plan and supply kit and making a list of potential concrete structures near home, work and school to serve as fallout shelters. "Fallout shelters do not need to be specifically constructed for protecting against fallout," it said. "They can be protected space, provided that the walls and roof are thick and dense enough (i.e. concrete) to absorb radiation given off by fallout particles." The fact sheet advises people on how to wash: do not scrub or scratch the skin, use soap, shampoo and water but do not put not conditioner on your hair because it binds radioactive material. It offers advice for parents who are away from their children during a strike. "Stay where you are, even if you are separated from your family," it said. "Listen to the news. Do not call the school. Be patient. Wait for instructions to pick up your child." The information on the fact sheet was gathered from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security website www.ready.gov, a Guam Homeland Security spokeswoman told the Pacific Daily News. Guam is home to about 163,000 people and a U.S. military base that includes a submarine squadron, an air base and a Coast Guard group. (For a graphic on North Korean missile trajectories, ranges click U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday warned North Korea against threatening Guam and said on Friday that the U.S. military was "locked and loaded, should North Korea act unwisely." Asked about Trump's tough posture, Guam Governor Eddie Calvo said he agreed with sending a clear message to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, who has ramped up his country's tests of missiles and nuclear bombs. "Though I don't want the temperature to get any higher, I think it's important also that there is clarity and that if there is an attack on any American soil including Guam, that it will be met with overwhelming response," Calvo told reporters on Friday. "I don't have any problem with that." -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-08-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Duck and cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 "Remove your clothing to keep radioactive material from spreading." Imagine the selfies! Naked people with nuke clouds in background! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Time to dig out the copy of Doctor Strangelove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Who writes that nonsense? Probably the grandkids of the moron who thought up the 'hide under your desk - duck and cover' for us kids on SAC bases in the early 1960s. The US doesn't have civil defense except for the elite. The true message for everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 If Guam goes, Pyongyang and Seoul will follow in rapid succession... And then a few hundred thousand screaming NORKs streaming across the DMZ... It will be drawn-out and hideously expensive in human and material terms, but the North will quickly reach the end of its logistics tether, the South will eventually prevail, the N. Korean govt unseated, and the peninsula finally re-unified (though decades of Kim- brainwashing will not be easy to undo). dot dot dot Unless China decides to involve itself. Much as China dreads the possibility of millions of destitute N. Korean refugees pouring across the border, I imagine it wants a new strong U.S. ally on its border possibly even less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 For the people of Guam. If you are indeed attacked by North Korea you can bet they will be vaporized, at least where the leader is hiding out. and they may find that they are vaporized before too many other weapons can be used on South Korea. It is 14 minutes from Korea to Guam, but only 5 minutes or less from SK or near by Subs. Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yme Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 19 hours ago, rooster59 said: "Do not look at the flash or fireball – It can blind you," it said. "Take cover behind anything that might offer protection." Yep. That will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 The only good advice of what to do in case of a nuclear attack dates back to the cold war: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 hours ago, hawker9000 said: If Guam goes, Pyongyang and Seoul will follow in rapid succession... And then a few hundred thousand screaming NORKs streaming across the DMZ... It will be drawn-out and hideously expensive in human and material terms, but the North will quickly reach the end of its logistics tether, the South will eventually prevail, the N. Korean govt unseated, and the peninsula finally re-unified (though decades of Kim- brainwashing will not be easy to undo). dot dot dot Unless China decides to involve itself. Much as China dreads the possibility of millions of destitute N. Korean refugees pouring across the border, I imagine it wants a new strong U.S. ally on its border possibly even less. Umm, I believe the threat was that they would strike Guam if the US attacks them first. So you are saying how dare you respond to being attacked? The US has been attacking smaller countries for decades in the name of freedom and democracy (I mean you couldn't make up a more absurd excuse if you tried), however this is the first time one actually has a shot, albeit minor, of fighting back. As to China it has been posited that they are indeed happy to see things as is, part of their strategy is that that want the THAD missiles gone (hence the trade pressure on S Korea), plus they would like to see the US out of S Korea once and for all. Interesting too that Trump is again threatening trade sanctions on yet another country, this time China. Could start as early as next week. So we will then have sanctions on both Russia and China, pushing them even closer together, historically too trade wars usually lead to hot wars. Could be fun times ahead or lots of bluster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Rancid said: Umm, I believe the threat was that they would strike Guam if the US attacks them first. So you are saying how dare you respond to being attacked? The US has been attacking smaller countries for decades in the name of freedom and democracy (I mean you couldn't make up a more absurd excuse if you tried), however this is the first time one actually has a shot, albeit minor, of fighting back. As to China it has been posited that they are indeed happy to see things as is, part of their strategy is that that want the THAD missiles gone (hence the trade pressure on S Korea), plus they would like to see the US out of S Korea once and for all. Interesting too that Trump is again threatening trade sanctions on yet another country, this time China. Could start as early as next week. So we will then have sanctions on both Russia and China, pushing them even closer together, historically too trade wars usually lead to hot wars. Could be fun times ahead or lots of bluster? Your post is playing loose with that facts. North Korea has frequently threatened Guam in the past. And your comments about the U.S. attacking smaller countries is nonsense and off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Go into a deep crouch, put your head between your legs and kiss your a-se goodbye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooinekrsa Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 On 8/12/2017 at 8:56 PM, rijb said: Your post is playing loose with that facts. North Korea has frequently threatened Guam in the past. And your comments about the U.S. attacking smaller countries is nonsense and off topic. your first comment is reliable, however imo the last few conflicts were about OIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooinekrsa Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 somebody said this is a snow blinker for china and trump is falling for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooinekrsa Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 if china is such a good alie with nk, why not give them the re-entre tech to do usa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I believe a Chinese govt spokesman said in the past week: --If NK attacks any U.S. territory, China will not interfere with any U.S. retaliation. --But if the U.S. attacks N.K. preemptively, then China would respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 WW III - part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 WW III - part. 1And if Kim starts it, it won't be any more avoidable than Hitler kicking off WWII. So I'm not sure what's so darn illuminating about parrotting stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, hawker9000 said: And if Kim starts it, it won't be any more avoidable than Hitler kicking off WWII. So I'm not sure what's so darn illuminating about parrotting stuff like this. And it all depends on what you mean by "starts it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Nee How Nee How Maa... .now what will be next behind the sitting-on-hands hidden agenda? Taiwan (while everybody's distracted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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